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Found an awesome Torah pattern today

robocop (actually)

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Sorry; I don't know where to post this:

First, what was already known:

This one was originally posted and created on otherbiblecode.com is for sale | HugeDomains by Vernon Jenkins.
In the Hebrew alphabet the letters can also correspond to 1-9,10-90, and 100-900 but it used to only go to 400 when letters weren't capitalized until the year 1900.
So in Genesis 1:1 there are 7 words with the following numbers:
913, 203,86,401,395,407, and 296.
Now 913+203+86+401+395+407+296=2701.
913*203*86*401*395*407*296=304,153,525,784,175,760
If we add the numbers between commas, 304+153+525+784+175+760=2701!
Vernon Jenkins also pointed out a verse in Genesis where the earth started over after Noah and the letters also added to 2701.
Not only that, 2701=37*73.
37 and 73 are the words wisdom and understanding.
And not only that, 37 and 73 are among the first centered hexagonal and Star of David numbers. We will see a pattern with that next. Obviously, this pattern only works starting with beit.
It should also be noted that Vernon Jenkins found a verse in Noah describing a new beginning where the letters added up to 2701 also.
 

robocop (actually)

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Now for what's new that I found:


But first, I have found something remarkable today February 17, 2022 about furthering this pattern. This is me:
Many Jews consider the first Beit to be 2000 instead of 2 because it is large. If we add up all the words/letters with 2000 instead of 2 the number is 1998 higher and we get 4699. 4,699 is factored by 37 and 127. 37 is the 4th centered hexagonal number as we know and 127 turns out to be the 9th.
And there’s more. If we multiply the numbers (from words) with 2911 instead of 913 we get 969,760,036,755,460,720 just like before. The numbers between commas add up to 3700!
And there’s more that I found. Joseph Smith said there was no beit so that would give the first word as 911. When we multiply all the words we get 303,487,253,000,420,720. When we add the numbers between commas we get 37 and 59. Not bad for Joseph Smith. 37 we’ve seen again and note that 37 occurring is not trivial. 59 is 2 below 61, another centered hexagon number and we have subtracted 2 in the verse as well as a hexagon number.
 

robocop (actually)

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Are you referring to Hebrew? Because there aren't capital letters in Hebrew.
Here is my understanding.
In many Torahs the first letter, beit, is large. Some people have suggested it corresponds to 2000 instead of 2. So I checked the previously found pattern with the substitution and found 3700 and 37*127.

The last 5 letters of the Hebrew Aleph Beit were substituted for their normal numbers like they did it before 1900. For instance, a full mem is not 500 but 40.
 

robocop (actually)

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Don't know... I've studied Judaism for decades and that's what I learned.

Simple gematria is the letters from 1-27.
Normal gematria is 1-900.
Before 1900 the last 5 letters reverted to the previous letters... like a final mem was 40 not 600.
 

Harel13

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Don't know... I've studied Judaism for decades and that's what I learned.

Simple gematria is the letters from 1-27.
Normal gematria is 1-900.
Before 1900 the last 5 letters reverted to the previous letters... like a final mem was 40 not 600.
If you studied this, you must have seen it somewhere. Because I have never heard of any letters that numerically go past 400. Sometimes the first 9 letters are used for thousands. I am interested in seeing your source.
 

robocop (actually)

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If you studied this, you must have seen it somewhere. Because I have never heard of any letters that numerically go past 400. Sometimes the first 9 letters are used for thousands. I am interested in seeing your source.
Interesting... I looked up all my patterns and none of them use 500-900! Maybe it was just me!
 

robocop (actually)

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If you studied this, you must have seen it somewhere. Because I have never heard of any letters that numerically go past 400. Sometimes the first 9 letters are used for thousands. I am interested in seeing your source.
Wikipedia has it up to 900, but these patterns went to 400 only. I think 400 is how they did it before 1900.
 

robocop (actually)

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If you studied this, you must have seen it somewhere. Because I have never heard of any letters that numerically go past 400. Sometimes the first 9 letters are used for thousands. I am interested in seeing your source.
I guess they must do it both ways today.
 
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