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Does karma release the antagonist from a future reaction, or the victim?
for every action there is an opposite but equal reaction.I don't think Karma works. It's a justice system with the probability of chance. And encourages lazy justice.
the scenario you gave is about retribution by person b, karma is about action. it isn't about personalities. it isn't about forgiveness either. karma is like the law it isn't a respecter of persons. it is a respecter of actions.Person A wrongs person B. Person B waits for Karma to affect person A, which could possibly ever happen.
Misfortune affects person C, explanation of misfortune was that person C was person A, and Karma is finally taking affect. If person C was a good person why is person C being punished for the actions of person A. Person C accepts Karma, and accepts misfortune like they deserved it somehow, when they had no personal hand in it as person C. Person C also might not seek to improve their own situation because person C now feels like they deserved punishment for another life.
How does that make sense to anyone.
Which form of Karma are we talking about, Buddhist Karma? Hindu Karma?
for every action there is an opposite but equal reaction.
That does not carry over to the human social interactions, plenty of crime occurs with zero repercussions.
How would you equate one action to an entirely different action. Two people get married, wife cheats on husband with neighbor, files divorce, and wins alimony from husband, and takes custody of kids to spite him. Also makes husband leave house he bought and still has to pay for. If in this hypothetical arc of events the only fault of the husband was that he was at work all the time trying to provide for his family. And the sole reason the wife cheated was that she got bored.
What is the supposed equal and opposite reaction to these events?
the law isn't about people. people are just objects like any other object. humans are limited to laws of physics and science. the law is universal as regards actions. doesn't matter if they're human, or non-human. your misconception was that reactions should be immediately observable. they don't have to be.It doesn't work man, you are taking a law in physics and assuming it spreads to other areas of human existence, when Newton's laws of motion had nothing to do with psychology in the first place.
In other words, you took a definition and added your own flair to it, but are now saying they meant what you added as well.
Dishonesty.
Is forgiveness for the assailant, or for the victim? Does karma release the antagonist from a future reaction, or the victim?
Father forgive them for they know not what they do.
which son are you speaking of?You haven't been able to understand what I've been saying about this very thing- but this question may help a bit.
Why do you suppose Jesus asks the Father that others be forgiven, considering that the Father judges no one?
John 5:21-23
For, as the Father doth raise the dead, and doth make alive, so also the Son doth make alive whom he willeth; for neither doth the Father judge any one, but all the judgment He hath given to the Son, that all may honour the Son according as they honour the Father; he who is not honouring the Son, doth not honour the Father who sent him.
which son are you speaking of?
for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
You. The Son of Man.
the spirit isn't born of flesh, the spirit quickeneth/enlivens the flesh/form is formed by it and not the reverse.
you got your cart before the horse.
the name, exodus 3:14, tells us that i am of that I AM. The I AM that is in me is greater than me. The All that is in me is greater than the part of the all that i am.
our god is a consuming fire. i am prometheus
yeah well...Father forgive them for they know not what they do.
love judges the actions and not the person. god is not a respecter of persons.These are topics worthy of their own discussions. Let's not veer off.
1) If the Father judges no one, why is it appropriate (for you) to ask that He forgive?
because of the lack of love; which leads to the light of understandingAnd so that you may understand further:
2) Why is ignorance (of others) a prerequisite appropriate for this request?
love judges the actions and not the person. god is not a respecter of persons.
because of the lack of love; which leads to the light of understanding
forgive us our ignorance as we forgive those who are ignorant of us.1) True. So then why ask of the Father on another's behalf? To what end?
when one realized the Law of Love and acts from it, that is the ONE.2) True. So then why does the One of complete understanding relegate judgement to you, being of limited understanding?