(Matthew 7:13-14) “Enter by the narrow gate since the road that leads to perdition is wide and spacious, and many take it; but it is a narrow gate and a hard road that leads to life, and only a few find it.”
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"For many be called, but few chosen.” For Christians only
- Thread starter Johnlove
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That is correct. I agree.
Your Matthew 7:13-14 does not agree with your Matthew 20:16 (International Standard Version "In the same way, the last will be first, and the first will be last, because many are called, but few are chosen." ) and you Matthew 24:14. I can explain but I think I am not going to.
You need to see just how elitist God is. God said he does not even chose to have ever known those who do not obey him.
(Matthew 7:21) “It is not those who say to me, ‘Lord, Lord’, who will enter the kingdom of Heaven but the person who does the will of My Father in Heaven. When the day comes many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, cast out demons in your name, work many miracles in your name?’ Then I shall tell them to their faces: I have never known you; away from me, you evil men!”
It might say that. If it does say that then I am wrong thinking it might say that they never knew him.
Do you not agree with me that once you have known the son of God it is not possible to unbelieve (to go back to not believing)?
I know this that once one becomes a child of God he or she can’t sin. If one does deliberately commit a sin he or she has never seen God nor knows God.
(1 John 3:9-10) “No one who has been begotten by God sins; because God’s seed remains inside him, he cannot sin when he has been begotten by God. In this way we distinguish the children of God from the children of the devil: anybody not living a holy life and not loving his brother is no child of God’s.”
(1 John 3:5-6) “Now you know that he appeared in order to abolish sin, and that in him there is no sin; anyone who lives in God does not sin, and anyone who sins has never seen him or known him.”
I do not doubt it.
Really?
You believe that the saved suddenly live sinless lives.
No progressive sanctification.
No need for any further repentance, because you will now live a sinless life.
Johnlove apears to be cherry picking verses out of context from only the outdated KJV translation.
... and you agree?
[shrug]
But I didn't say I agree. I am not able to disagree because I think I know that the meaning is much deeper than we think it is. There are people searching for the narrow gate. They believe, but they can sin. When they go through the gate there is no turning back. On the cramped road to life, there is no sinning. No sinning does not mean making no mistakes imo. If he thinks it means a child of God makes no mistakes then I do not agree with him.