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Featured For Christians. Was the flood real or just a myth?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Deeje, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. Subduction Zone

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    Oh my! Don't make your ignorance even more obvious.

    The subject of that example was people, not ocean liners.

    So you have no education at all when it comes to the sciences. This could take a while. I don't know where to start. Hmm.... Let's start with the concept of evidence. You clearly do not understand that either. Are you willing to learn or are you here merely to make a belief in the Bible look ridiculous?
     
  2. URAVIP2ME

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    To my understanding Jesus is the one speaking at Luke 17:26-30 about real events
    Why ' remember Lot's wife ' as Jesus' recorded words say to do at Luke 17:32 if it never happened.
     
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  3. Subduction Zone

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    The myths of the Bible were stories that the people at that time were familiar with. By referring to them he got his point across. The problem arises when one claims that Jesus was using these as more than teaching points. By doing so one claims in effect that Jesus was not God.
     
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    Noah's Ark was Not a physical person. The Bible-book Ark was a water-proofed wooden vessel in a rectangular shape.
    No persons were bounced around in stormy waters, it was the Ark. The Ark being the size of some modern-day ocean liners Not any persons being so tall as to be out of shape. Houses are even more than 3 stories tall and stand.
     
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    What about the flood of water covering the earth In Genesis 1:2. That flood.
     
  6. URAVIP2ME

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    Right, Jesus is Not God according to Revelation 3:14B; Colossians 1:15; John 10:36.
    Even the heavenly resurrected Jesus still thinks he has a God over him according to Revelation 3:12.

    Sure, Jesus used Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah as teaching points. Teaching points so we don't make the same mistake as did the real people of Noah's day and Sodom and Gomorrah. Especially since we are nearing the soon coming ' time of separation ' to take place on Earth as figuratively described at Matthew 25:31-33,37 when the figurative humble ' sheep'-like people will be separated from the figurative haughty ' goat'-like people.
    Because the ' sheep ' listen to Jesus' words is why they will be ' saved/delivered/rescued ' through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
     
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    If you do not understand simply ask questions. Please don't post utter nonsense that only confirms by claims.

    It appears that simply analogies are beyond your level of comprehension.

    Once again, how much science education have you had?
     
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    Then you are saying that either there was no Flood or that God is a liar. Which one is your belief?
     
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    I think Genesis 1:2 is Not talking about a flood, but just that waters were covering the Earth before dry land ever appeared. That water covering over Earth is part of the first account about Earth being created/constructed in chronological order.
     
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    Your inability to understand an analogy only underscores your lack of education. Just as a person has a problem when he is "scaled up" so would a boat. The Square/Cube Law applies to all materials.
     
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    Actually at no time in the Earth's history is there any indication that the entire Earth was under water.
     
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    Amazing how in some instances this all-powerful God can do ANYTHING and in others there appears to be so many restrictions on what He can do. It's almost as if this God changes, depending on what point believers are attempting to make.
     
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    I am saying God is No liar, and because God does Not lie (Titus 1:2; Hebrews 6:18) the Flood was real as described in Scripture. Just as Jesus said at Matthew 24:39 people took No note until the Flood came, and people are taking No note about Matthew 24:14 even though the good news about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 is now proclaimed on an international scale just as Jesus said it would be done and is now being done as per Acts of the Apostles 1:8.
     
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    Then why does science class teach Earth started out covered with water.
    Don't they talk about some sort of soup, organic hot soup or something.
     
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    Then you are saying that the flood never happened. There are mountains of evidence that tell us that there was no flood. There is no evidence for the flood. If your God exists the only what that evidence could exist is if he made it somehow. By planting false evidence he would be a liar.

    Therefore by stating that God does not lie you also state that there was no flood. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    It doesn't teach that. It merely teaches that there was water in the early Earth.
     
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    Then how does one explain the modern-day scaled-up ocean liners, the scaled-up skyscrapers having No such problems. To me that is because we are Not talking about physical structure but material structure.
    The Ark and some of today's ocean liners being similar in size without such problems as an 8 foot person would have.
     
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    If I recall correctly, a PBS science documentary showed a time when Earth was water covered.
    Maybe it was called a ' cosmic soup ' .
     
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    Modern day ships use modern day materials. You will note the absence of wood as a structural component.

    In fact if one looks at buildings for human habitation you will see that there are limits to various building materials. Skyscrapers are made possible by modern day steel. Even so there will be limits using that material.

    Wooden boats the size of the Ark, even with steel reinforcement, have all failed. Do you need examples?
     
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    You do not recall correctly. Once again, the fact that there were ancient oceans does not mean that the entire Earth was covered by water.
     
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