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You said that we need Romans to explain Genesis. I said that that the writers of Genesis were unaware of the future Romans to whom a future Paul wrote a future letter. Not obfuscation. Your misunderstanding.
I thought that might be the case! No problem.
That's because they "already have all the answers."
Many are...
It wouldn't be the first time.
Then I am bemused by your continuing and very hostile responses.....a need to be "right" perhaps? Or is that just me?
I have a feeling that you need to flash credentials.....that the "don't you know who I am?" card is being waved at me from behind the computer.
Was Jesus a scholar by Jewish standards? Were any of his 12 apostles educated men? What does a person's educational standards have to do with Christianity? Its about the heart, not the intellect or how many degrees one has. (Luke 10:21)
Let's allow God to show us all who is "right"......because your life and my life...and the lives of all people living in this "time of the end", depend on us getting this "right". We have one shot. You have taken yours and I have taken mine. Those reading will make up their own minds.
There is no need to continue this hostile exchange. I have stated my beliefs and yours are duly noted.
All the best....
If you say so....but that's not what Jesus said. (Luke 10:21)
It’s just you. I don’t “need to be right.” But I know good exegesis when I see it, and I know when something is off base. Yours is off base. It has nothing to do with what you believe about the texts. It does have everything to do with what you know about the texts. You need that head knowledge regarding the texts, because we don't have access to Jesus or the Church Fathers and mothers. They can’t tell us what they meant, so we have to employ critical disciplines in order to discover what they meant in these ancient writings, through a certain discipline of textual study.
Yes. Jesus was a Rabbi.
See above. Who do you think translated the texts from these ancient languages into modern English? Scholars. Who has the discipline and knowledge to develop theological constructs based on the texts that make sense? Scholars. My NT prof read the NT from Koine Greek, translating it into English in church, on the fly. He has been on a few translation teams. That takes a certain educational standard. I’d trust his translational skills more than yours. Why? Because he has the education to do it right. When all we have are these ancient writings, you better believe we need people with the right education to be able to translate them for us.
When exegeting the texts, it is an intellectual thing and not a heart thing.
If it’s about getting it right, then by golly let’s trust the ones whom God has called by virtue of their intellect and education to do that work.
It has been shown by biblical scholars that this particular quotation is not authentic to Jesus. It’s a later interpolation. I wrote a paper on this exact pericope. I did extensive research. Jesus most likely did not say this.