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Follow the Leader

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Evangelicalhumanist, Jul 18, 2019.

  1. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    See what leadership can do? Now Trump's loyal base is calling for an American citizen, an Member of Congress, no less, to be "sent back" to where she came from. And where did they get this idea? Well, guess....
     
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  2. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Yeah. And?
     
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    That what you do to divert public attention, you start Kosovo war or show the door to a representative - just throw them a bone to fight for.
     
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    Just a few hours ago I watched a newscast of his rally where his followers were shouting "Send her back"


    Starts at the 00:26 mark

    and Trump stood there making no attempt whatsoever to stop them.

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  5. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    And a self-respecting person, let alone a presumed "authority", would refuse to stoop so low.
     
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  6. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Yeah. And? Should we stop calling Trump Hitler? Stupid? Pervert? Crass? Show pictures of celebrities holding his severed head? Or...you get the picture, I'm sure.
     
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  7. Road Less Traveled

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    Don’t we all or have at one point, followed our different leaders...divorcing our minds and surrendering our own ability to lead ourselves?
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    Well maybe if she goes back to the Bronx she could actually start doing her job.
     
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  9. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    And I for one would feel deeply ashamed from supporting someone like that.

    Actually, I do not.

    I have no idea of what you mean to say here.

    Nor do I have much of an idea of why you hesitate to join the condemnation of Trump.
     
  10. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    And I understand that, being Trump loyalists, they're mostly Christian.

    Here's a little something written by William Shakespeare about 400 years ago. It's from a play (never published) about Thomas More, Henry VIII Chancellor, speaking to a crowd shouting for the removal of foreigners in the land.

    The Book of Sir Thomas More, Act 2, Scene 4

    Grant them removed, and grant that this your noise
    Hath chid down all the majesty of England;
    Imagine that you see the wretched strangers,
    Their babies at their backs and their poor luggage,
    Plodding to the ports and coasts for transportation,
    And that you sit as kings in your desires,
    Authority quite silent by your brawl,
    And you in ruff of your opinions clothed;
    What had you got? I’ll tell you: you had taught
    How insolence and strong hand should prevail,
    How order should be quelled; and by this pattern
    Not one of you should live an aged man,
    For other ruffians, as their fancies wrought,
    With self same hand, self reasons, and self right,
    Would shark on you, and men like ravenous fishes
    Would feed on one another….
    Say now the king

    Should so much come too short of your great trespass
    As but to banish you, whither would you go?
    What country, by the nature of your error,
    Should give you harbour? go you to France or Flanders,
    To any German province, to Spain or Portugal,
    Nay, any where that not adheres to England,
    Why, you must needs be strangers: would you be pleased

    To find a nation of such barbarous temper,
    That, breaking out in hideous violence,
    Would not afford you an abode on earth,
    Whet their detested knives against your throats,
    Spurn you like dogs, and like as if that God
    Owed not nor made not you, nor that the claimants
    Were not all appropriate to your comforts,
    But chartered unto them, what would you think
    To be thus used? this is the strangers case;
    And this your mountainish inhumanity.

    Or if you prefer, hear it spoken by Sir Ian McKellen
     
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  11. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    More's the pity...
     
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    Thats expecting maturity now come on! You are no fun grown up. Old fart go play the guitar the only people listening are old farts playing guitar three cords at a time. Here is an old moron right here snapped a pic what an idiot he could just buy music way easier! signal-2019-06-26-162928.jpg
     
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  13. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    Yeah. On that much we agree, although I must assume that beyond that we deviate sharply.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    This is suppose to mean something?
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    A lefty making a C chord? BTW, we killed last night. She just keeps getting better and better...
     
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    They are telling an American citizen to leave to go to some place they aren't from. It's pathetic, un-American, and suggests they have no regards for facts, rights, or decency.
     
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  17. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

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    It does to me. Quite a lot, really.

    If it's just babble to you, that's a pity, but I understand.
     
  18. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Or advocating the assassination of the President and/or his family, which should invoke the same righteous indignation. Can anyone say "hypocritical"?
     
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  19. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Well, I gotta hand that to ya. You are a master babbler...
     
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  20. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    Quite correct.

    I am relieved for not being an American citizen at those times. It is truly ashaming as it is.
     
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    To the point of being open to the idea of sending people to gas chambers who are considered undesirable to the current political leadership? Plenty have done that historically. And if that sounds implausible to us today, how about chanting for American citizens, and elected members of congress - elected by American citizens who voted for them and stand behind them, be expelled from their country of birth because they oppose the POTUS?

    Is that acceptable? Isn't that just a short slide down that greasy pole into the sort of stuff we have seen in other dictatorships? Aren't we on that same path here?
     
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