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Florida GOP want to check out teenage genitals.

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by fantome profane, Apr 18, 2021.

  1. fantome profane

    fantome profane Keep safe, and keep your neighbours safe.
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  2. Twilight Hue

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    A lot of women athletes are for and support the bill. Transgender athletes, primarily men to women are all but destroying women's sports.





    That's what it's all about.
     
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  3. Saint Frankenstein

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    I don't really have an opinion on trans people in sports, but surely genital checks on minors should be out of the question. I would think it would be a simple thing for the school to find out the sex of the student. :rolleyes:
     
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    Mack Beggs, the first one they showed, is an FTM. Obviously a trans man should not be competing against women.
     
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    Are we sure Matt didn't create the bill?
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    I think its more click bait than anything else.
     
  7. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    "Fetish" seems entirely the wrong term.
    It's a phobia about boys in girls' bathrooms.
     
  8. fantome profane

    fantome profane Keep safe, and keep your neighbours safe.
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    Ya got me. RF pays me one dollar for every view and two dollars for every response.

    Help me out, I am trying to save up for a new shower curtain.
     
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  9. sun rise

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    All but destroying and all you have as proof is some video? That's a load of horse-hockey.

    It's all about perverts wanting to inspect the genitals of kids. Don't believe me? Prove I'm wrong. After all, if a trans woman has her male genitals removed, she's still a trans woman.
     
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  10. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Hey, be honest. All us older folks just can't resist looking at the naughty bits of teens! There's an entire industry devoted to it!
     
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    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    You might first try to prove you're right.
    Can you not at all see the other side's perspective?
    Claiming that it's all about sexual perversion is pretty strange.
     
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    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    I was responding to a preposterous unproven allegation that trans women have "all but destroyed..." with a preposterous unproven allegation. I guess that's not PC as you see it.
     
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  13. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    Great....you aspire to become the other extreme?
     
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    If someone tried that with my nieces and nephews, they’ll be sorry. Trans, cis, I don’t care.
    Creepy perverts.
     
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    We're too polarized with extreme reactions and accusations on both sides. Common sense says a male has physical advantages over a female in many or most sports. It is neither a phobia (e.g., "transphobia") or a sexual perversion to hold that view. There needs to be civil and rational dialog on the subject. I believe there are caring, empathetic, and rational people on both sides of the issue.
     
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    Musing Bassist Mihi Quaestio Factus Sum

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    Common sense is no longer that common.
     
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    Maybe, but that bill doesn't adress the issue in an empathetic and rational way. It actually make atheletism creepier for teenager athletes. Would you participate in regional competition knowing you would have to show your genitals to some judge? I doubt so. It's extremely off putting and excessive. The person who designed it clearly had no sense of empathy toward those it would affect nor any rational framework upon which the inclusion of a transgender athlete might participate in sports in a fair fashion. Defending such a bill is the height of stupidity.
     
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    Adults shouldn't be trying to look at the genitals of teenagers for any reason unless they are in a doctors office for medical purposes and even then only by the doctor... Adults should not be checking a teens genitals to so call check their gender. It's not a medical reason.
     
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  19. fantome profane

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    If we were talking about this on a professional or Olympic level I might agree. But we are talking about children here. The psychological and developmental advantages that come from youth athletics cannot be underestimated. And these are the very children who may need this the most. Belonging to a team, developing an healthy body and healthy body image as well as countless other subtle positives.

    I think there are some people who don’t understand this issue and think this is about boys playing on girls teams. That is not what it is about.

    And those who are on the side of giving vulnerable children genital exams for the explicit purpose of denying them the benefits of youth athletics can hardly be described as caring or empathetic.
     
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    I'm sure that medical folks check teenagers' bodies for various reasons.

    For trans male-female athletes to take part in Female sports that require stamina, speed or strength... this is just not fair on women who have devoted their lives to a sport.
     
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