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"Florida Bill Prevents Kids from Studying Subjects Their Parents Don’t Agree With"

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Skwim, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Skwim

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    "A Florida Senate panel has narrowly backed a bill that would leave children without the right to learn about subjects their parents don’t agree with — including the theory of evolution, anthropogenic climate change, and a whole raft of topics under the umbrella of sex education.


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    In addition to science-based topics, progressive activists point out that the bill could lead to children of white supremacists being pulled from lessons about African American history or the achievements of other cultures, or Holocaust deniers who refuse to let their children learn history lessons that counter their own propaganda.

    The woman who filed SB 1634, State Senator Kelli Stargel (R-Lakeland), says the bill does not change any of the rights already afforded to parents under Florida law; it just highlights them and requires schools to incorporate explicitly into their policies.

    This bill is not a huge departure from what we have in law. It is basically compiling together [in law] for the parents to be involved with their children, that parents know they have rights, and parents have the ability to govern their children in a way they feel is best.
    It’s telling that the phrase “parental rights” appears in the bill’s text several times, while the idea of children’s rights rates not one mention.

    LGBTQ rights activist Delilah Pierre points out that LGBTQ children will be doubly impacted by the bill: kept from learning about LGBTQ history and identity even as they face the risk that their educators will feel compelled to out them to unsupportive families:

    This bill takes away the right of queer and trans kids to even have their own personal identification of themselves, their right to have to tell their parents of their queerness and their transness, in their way, on their own terms. This bill makes it possible for people to erase even more LGBTQ history.
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    Thoughts?

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  2. Shadow Wolf

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    It is a sign of how weak and insecure their faith is, if it cannot survive the utterance of ideas and so thus ideas must be prohibited. It's terrible for the now, but also a potential death throw as the Religious Right becomes ever more desperate to maintain their hold on society.
     
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  3. Revoltingest

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    Seems a really bad idea.
     
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    There is a frog in a pot of water ...
     
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    Two words, “home school”.
     
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  6. Skwim

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    With half the population carrying an IQ below 100 I don't see this as a good idea.

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    F*** the fascists and storm the Bastille !
     
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    That's often worse.
     
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    You missed the point, I see.
     
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    100 +/-15 is considered average. That would mean the average range of IQ scores runs between 85 - 115. This accounts for about 68% of the population.
     
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    I was home schooled, and commonly the evangelical, fundamentalist, literalist approach to the Bible is promoted in home schooling.
     
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    What’s the matter, you afraid the government won’t be able to control the kids’ minds?
     
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    <Gasp!>
    Perish the thought!
     
  14. Father Heathen

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    I would be afraid that they would be left with no mind at all.
     
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    Thought so.
     
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    Sheltering children and indoctrinating them with wacky superstition leaves them ill prepared for the real world.
     
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    Data suggests that homeschooled children do better on standardized tests and tend to complete college at a higher percentage than those from public schools. It would be an interesting thread to see what exactly some people have against home schooling vs. what the results show, I may create one.
     
  18. Revoltingest

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    Half are below average?
    This is unacceptable!
     
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  19. Shadow Wolf

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    It really does. And, in my case, having to relearn subjects such as history and science. Really, the only thing it prepared me to do was finish school and then dedicate my life to god. Of course there are careers to consider, but those must be considered in regards to what god wants of you. So no biology or cosmology.
     
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    I was taught all the languages of the world came from Babylon when god confused them over the Tower scene, that the American Founding Fathers were all a bunch of Bible Thumping Christians who established America as a Christian nation, Noah's flood literally happened, that Alexander the Great unified the world to prepare it for the coming of Christ, that apartheid Africa was a good and justified thing (along with other facets of racism such as racial segregation featured in the little comic things in our workbooks), traditional Christian gender roles were strongly promoted, and there are more concerning things such as promoting the idea of breaking the law if it's to serve god, and that even performing dangerous acts in the name of god is a good thing to do even if it is known there is a high chance you will be killed. Which leads to the promotion of the Christian victimhood and martyrdom complex.
    And, of course, standardized testing is absolutely worthless and measures only if you can commit rote facts to memory. They don't test or measure your ability to actually use and access information. Home school kids get a lot of practice memorizing Bible verses. It's really not much of an achievement.
     
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