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Flat earthers religiously motivated or just dumb.

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
I think the Quran mentions the earth being flat too :-/

Well then, if TWO primitive mythologies say it's flat, then I guess we all will just have to totally ignore all the facts showing it to be a sphere and warn all the children to stay away from the edge so they don't fall off the earth.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Flat earthers,never heard of this before,well I knew people in the middle ages thought the earth was flat but not today,maybe they're like the people who say the Earth is only 6000 years old.

Anyway I saw this on the BBC,kind of sad but flat earthers,I'm going with dumb.

Daredevil dies after crash-landing rocket
You provided the link, you know the answer. Dumb, dumber, dumbest.

No doubt a strong candidate for a Darwin award -- for taking his dumb tush out of the gene pool.

What's so hard to understand is why the ancient Greeks could figure out the earth is round -- and could reason how to measure its circumference -- and a person in our day and age simply can't get there. And the reason? He was conditioned not to. He was trained into ignorance. He was persuaded to ignore what didn't fit what he'd been conditioned to believe.

And then, predictably, his ignorance killed him. It often does.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So I am HORRIFIED to see Trump (Hitler wanna be.)in the White House and the Republican (Nazi) party destroying our democracy right before my eyes.

I find it funny that you accept this as truth, but also kinda sad. There's certainly not any similarity between Hitler and Trump. But, also it's worth mentioning that Hitler's rise to power was basically driven by Germany basically being bankrupted by WW1. He really didn't have a choice to war his neighbors or not -- he did it or they starved. Trump is a complete pacifist by comparison... He sees war as economically damaging and does whatever he thinks is most likely to overt that scenario. The two really couldn't be further apart on the issue and many others like socialism. (which Hitler was completely down with...)
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
I find it funny that you accept this as truth, but also kinda sad. There's certainly not any similarity between Hitler and Trump. But, also it's worth mentioning that Hitler's rise to power was basically driven by Germany basically being bankrupted by WW1. He really didn't have a choice to war his neighbors or not -- he did it or they starved. Trump is a complete pacifist by comparison... He sees war as economically damaging and does whatever he thinks is most likely to overt that scenario. The two really couldn't be further apart on the issue and many others like socialism. (which Hitler was completely down with...)

Geez...

Splitting hairs makes no difference.

Hitler Trump is an insane narcissistic egomaniac who is totally devoid of empathy, compassion, or even the slightest bit of self-control. Has NO regard of our laws, the Constitution, our Democracy, and only want's to enrich himself and his filthy rich cronies, while impoverishing our once great nation. And the Republican Party are the Nazis backing him up all the way.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Geez...

Splitting hairs makes no difference.

Hitler Trump is an insane narcissistic egomaniac who is totally devoid of empathy, compassion, or even the slightest bit of self-control. Has NO regard of our laws, the Constitution, our Democracy, and only want's to enrich himself and his filthy rich cronies, while impoverishing our once great nation. And the Republican Party are the Nazis backing him up all the way.

I see what I'm dealing with, and I don't find further conversation on the topic pretty helpful. I thought Trump Derangement Syndrome was a made up thing that conservative commentators were making up to tease people, boy I was wrong. :D

But, the Dems are different how exactly? Are they less rich or more rich? Hmm... Most of the leftist corporate elite are RICHER than the rich on right, so by that logic they must be even MORE corrupt, eh?

Please though, if you're going to talk to people stop calling folks Nazi's when you know it's not true.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
The authors were up to date with their science in their place and time, indeed. Just as ours mostly are.

But the people who presently declare the earth to be flat will usually mention the bible at some point.

My experiences on the net debating creationists and the fundy view of an inerrant bible over quite a few years indicate that even they don't argue the world is flat, rather that the numerous statements to that effect in the bible mean something else.

I have seen this too,
Should have launched it with a crash dummy first.

Mad Mike joins the list of folks who were killed by their own inventions.
List of inventors killed by their own inventions - Wikipedia

We love mad inventors but yes he should have used a crash dummy first considering he was injured on his first run.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You provided the link, you know the answer. Dumb, dumber, dumbest.

No doubt a strong candidate for a Darwin award -- for taking his dumb tush out of the gene pool.

What's so hard to understand is why the ancient Greeks could figure out the earth is round -- and could reason how to measure its circumference -- and a person in our day and age simply can't get there. And the reason? He was conditioned not to. He was trained into ignorance. He was persuaded to ignore what didn't fit what he'd been conditioned to believe.

And then, predictably, his ignorance killed him. It often does.

Mad by name mad by nature,this kind of ignorance is shared by the young earth brigade too.
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
Hitler Trump is an insane narcissistic egomaniac who is totally devoid of empathy, compassion, or even the slightest bit of self-control. Has NO regard of our laws, the Constitution, our Democracy, and only want's to enrich himself and his filthy rich cronies, while impoverishing our once great nation. And the Republican Party are the Nazis backing him up all the way.

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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I find it funny that you accept this as truth, but also kinda sad. There's certainly not any similarity between Hitler and Trump. But, also it's worth mentioning that Hitler's rise to power was basically driven by Germany basically being bankrupted by WW1. He really didn't have a choice to war his neighbors or not -- he did it or they starved. Trump is a complete pacifist by comparison... He sees war as economically damaging and does whatever he thinks is most likely to overt that scenario. The two really couldn't be further apart on the issue and many others like socialism. (which Hitler was completely down with...)
They're similar in the sense that both oversaw programs of concentration camps to hold people seen as not deserving of full rights.

They're definitely different in the sense that Hitler was motivated by ideology, while Trump really only seems to be motivated by self-interest.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
So... in other words... everyone agrees that the surface of the Earth is a 2-dimensional Manifold?

Does this mean that people are arguing over the existence or lack of existence of an infinitesimal? :tearsofjoy:
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Well then, if TWO primitive mythologies say it's flat, then I guess we all will just have to totally ignore all the facts showing it to be a sphere and warn all the children to stay away from the edge so they don't fall off the earth.

Well you have to be careful,look what the Vatican did to Galileo,they didn't admit he was right about the earth going around the sun till 1992.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Flat earthers,never heard of this before,well I knew people in the middle ages thought the earth was flat but not today,maybe they're like the people who say the Earth is only 6000 years old.

I don’t believe that anyone can believe in flat earth, because mountains are almost everywhere. :)

Also, it would be good to understand, in Bible, earth doesn’t mean planet earth, it means only dry land. And according to the Bible, in the beginning there was just one continent that was called earth, or dry land. And as one could understand, continent is relatively flat.

God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters he called Seas. God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:10

Are you a disciple of Jesus?
 

halbhh

The wonder and awe of "all things".
Flat earthers,never heard of this before,well I knew people in the middle ages thought the earth was flat but not today,maybe they're like the people who say the Earth is only 6000 years old.

Anyway I saw this on the BBC,kind of sad but flat earthers,I'm going with dumb.

Daredevil dies after crash-landing rocket
More than anything it's a conspiracy theory mindset. Trying to use some other thing as support such as a distorted or misread verse in scripture is only an attempt to make the conspiracy theory seem more respectable.

One thing to realize -- anything with prestige, such as America, the flag, God, the Bible -- will be used by groups to try to lend legitimacy to their own agendas that have nothing to do with the prestigious thing being used.
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
I see what I'm dealing with, and I don't find further conversation on the topic pretty helpful. I thought Trump Derangement Syndrome was a made up thing that conservative commentators were making up to tease people, boy I was wrong. :D

But, the Dems are different how exactly? Are they less rich or more rich? Hmm... Most of the leftist corporate elite are RICHER than the rich on right, so by that logic they must be even MORE corrupt, eh?

Please though, if you're going to talk to people stop calling folks Nazi's when you know it's not true.

I understand that you just don't have what it takes to comprehend this, but with Trump in office and Republicans backing him, he is completely destroying our laws, policies, government system, and trampling on everything we hold dear in our Constitution. He is only out to enrich himself and his filthy rich cronies, and doesn't care one bit about you or any other average American. And as long as he's in power, our entire democracy is GONE! As EVERYTHING just HAS to be his way or no way. He is way to narcissistic to listen to ANYBODY. Just look how he attacks ANYBODY who DARES to oppose him, no matter how petty the issue. So "We the People" of the Unites States, is GONE! And you just wait and see if I'm right, he will use whatever illegal means necessary to cheat in the next election. And now that he has his own person in charge of the election process, Russia will have a Green Light to help him out while it's all covered up. And mark my words, even if he somehow loses in this next election, or after his two terms are over, he will NOT leave office peaceably, he will have to be forced out.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And as long as he's in power, our entire democracy is GONE! As EVERYTHING just HAS to be his way or no way. He is way to narcissistic to listen to ANYBODY. Just look how he attacks ANYBODY who DARES to oppose him, no matter how petty the issue. So "We the People" of the Unites States, is GONE!

And, how is that different from what the Democrats propose? They too seemingly want everything their way. Do Democrats refrain from attacking people who disagree with them or do not cooperate with their vision? Hmm... Hypocrisy. Pot meet kettle.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
They're similar in the sense that both oversaw programs of concentration camps to hold people seen as not deserving of full rights.

They're definitely different in the sense that Hitler was motivated by ideology, while Trump really only seems to be motivated by self-interest.


What camps? Sorry, I just don't know where you get that information.

Trump seems to be a 50/50. Certainly, he's motivated by self-interest but so is everyone else -- he just doesn't bother to hide it. But, if it comes to things which have nationwide effect then he seems to be more "for the people" and whatever seems to be right in that regard. I mean I don't particularly see anyone in the Dem leadership is being overly altruistic either.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
What camps? Sorry, I just don't know where you get that information.

Trump seems to be a 50/50. Certainly, he's motivated by self-interest but so is everyone else -- he just doesn't bother to hide it. But, if it comes to things which have nationwide effect then he seems to be more "for the people" and whatever seems to be right in that regard. I mean I don't particularly see anyone in the Dem leadership is being overly altruistic either.

TDS enables people to see things that are not there.
Like "concentration camps".
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
And, how is that different from what the Democrats propose? They too seemingly want everything their way. Do Democrats refrain from attacking people who disagree with them or do not cooperate with their vision? Hmm... Hypocrisy. Pot meet kettle.

“Life is tough, but it’s tougher if you’re stupid.” – John Wayne
 
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