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Five Years Since the Route 91 Massacre No One Knows a Damn Thing

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  1. Stevicus

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    Five Years Since the Route 91 Massacre No One Knows a Damn Thing (msn.com)

    I was not aware that they changed the name of the Las Vegas Massacre to the "Route 91 Massacre."

    Apparently, there's been some disagreement and consternation regarding what to call the memorial, as well as the number of victims. The original number of victims was 58, but there were two women who were shot on that day but died years later.

    Not much more has been learned about this shooting since the initial reports almost five years ago. They still don't what the motive was, although the shooter did have a rather strange history. (Stephen Paddock - Wikipedia)

    I recall that when the story of the shooting first broke, there were reports that ISIS had claimed responsibility, that the shooter was one of their "soldiers," but the authorities said they found no evidence that ISIS was behind it. However, the Wiki article states that Paddock had traveled to the Middle East in the last year of his life, but it didn't elaborate on why he went to the Middle East or whether he had any contacts over there.

    This incident still remains as the deadliest mass shooting event by a lone shooter in U.S. history.

    The article goes into detail about many of the survivors' stories and how they've fared in the aftermath. It mentions legislative action taken in Nevada, though the incident has also polarized those who are either pro-gun control or not. Apparently, some survivors see this as a reason for buying even more guns.

    There have also been some lawsuits in the aftermath, and the official police investigation seemed to leave more questions than answers.

    The investigation concluded that he acted alone, that he was not affiliated with any hate group, terrorist group, or ideology. They found no evidence of a second shooter or anyone else who might have been involved. They were unable to discern any motive whatsoever.

    The shooter was relatively well off. He had millions in assets, multiple properties, he took many cruises all over the world.

    They said he scoped out other similar music festivals in the weeks prior, so it seems he was targeting music festivals for whatever reason.

    One might wonder what caused this, what was going through his mind. But then one might also ask, does it even matter? Would knowing the reason help the healing process for the survivors? Does it help society to know, in the sense that it can provide useful information to help prevent such things?

    Thoughts?
     
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    The event reminded me of the Texas tower sniper who had a brain tumour.
     
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    Even if society did/does know, but what has actually changed?

    All fourteen AR-15-type rifles were outfitted with bump stocks that allow semiautomatic rifles to fire rapidly, simulating fully-automatic gunfire.[67][72] Audio recordings of the attack indicated Paddock used these stocks to fire at the crowd in rapid succession.[73][74][75]
    Stephen Paddock - Wikipedia
     
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  4. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein I'm not deaf, I'm just a real bad listener
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    It is quite bizarre that we have no motive for the attack, as mass shooters tend to be very forthcoming with justifications and leave a paper trail. But he's not the only one. They still don't know why Adam Lanza did the Sandy Hook massacre or why he chose the school as a target.
     
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    The article mentioned that Nevada passed some legislation, such as a red-flag bill which allows authorities to seize weapons from high-risk individuals. Also, there was a law against ghost guns, currently being challenged in the state supreme court.

    Another twist is that the Sheriff of Clark County at the time is now running for Nevada Governor, and he's a pro-Trump nominee.
     
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  6. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle 'Some of you humans are just so funny!'
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    Some musings - from the Wiki:

    His father being a bank robber and not being present in his early life (so mostly being with a single mother) might have had something to do with it - for example, him wanting to outdo the notoriety of his father and be remembered for such. As many people do in life - perform according to expectations or as to repulsing parental influences. His gambling - and winning - perhaps was a slight to his father - not needing to actually rob banks since he could get the money legitimately. And his losing some of his wealth prior to the shooting might have been a factor.

    But it is likely that he had a mental health issue of some sort.
     
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    That's just great. Why is it that people cannot, or refuse to acknowledge these and like weapons have only one reason, to kill humans?
     
  8. Stevicus

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    I think they know that part of it, but the main argument I've encountered is that they feel a need to have these kinds of weapons for defense. The Las Vegas incident even bolstered this view in some people's minds. Some may be prepping for Armageddon, alien invasion, lizard people, or who knows what else?
     
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