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Featured Few reasons why Muslims should not celebrate "New Year"

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by TawheedIsTheOnlyWay, Dec 31, 2017.

  1. shunyadragon

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    Not really the subject of the thread, but Trinitarianism is central to 90%+ Christians.
     
  2. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    The problem is that once one accepts the possibility of letting go of traditions from centuries ago in order to achieve practical, religious advancement today there is not a whole lot left to sustain Islaamic doctrine.

    And while you may not be aware of that, the divergence regarding the relative importance of Aisha and Ali (and his wife, sons and descendants) is of utmost significance regarding the Shia / Sunni split - a split that has brought great sorrow, shame and loss for Muslims for some 14 centuries now, and one that, to this day, very few Muslims can either ignore or accept.
     
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  3. Shia Islam

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    The problem with the Slafi/Wahhabi Islam is that they don't know what Innovation is...

    Before, talking about Islamic laws..you need to believe in the Imams after the prophet who know what islam laws are..

    Look how you missed the way..

    You have innovated a Congregational Prayer called the Taraweeh...
    Which is a manifest Bidaa..

    And yet you define what is not Bidaa as Bidaa...

    You have even claimed that God has a body...and Some of you have even talked about the "Tail" of the God..
     
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    I might be wrong, but I suggest that many more don't even think about it even if they talked about father, son and holy ghost. They still mostly talk about God or Jesus separately.
     
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    I was making a point of theological belief not really the topic of the thread. Theological differences are not the point brought up by the original post.

    The criticism of the original post and later posts of the West was selective, totally unbalanced and over the top when considering the problems of violence in Islam both internally and externally.

    Neither are the differences between Sunni and ****e divisions of Islam.
     
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    This thread is providing excellent witness to the toxic nature of self-proclaimed orthodox Islam. Please continue.
     
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  7. Muslim-UK

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    You are absolutely right, but placing partners alongside GOD will cost them dearly when they return for judgement. Hence the clear warning in 5:73.
     
  8. Jumi

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    I've heard from Muslims here that they believe angels were part of creating the world. Is that not true?

    I believe that if people believe that Satan exists like many think it does, they are already not really monotheist.
     
  9. LuisDantas

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    What is meant by placement of a partner alongside God exactly?

    And if it is something that can be done by humans, do you have any ideas about why God would make that possible if it so displeases Him?
     
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    They carried out the Commandments of GOD. No Muslim would worship them and to do so would remove one from Islam.

    Why do you say that? Muslims believe in Satan, and are told he has no power over us, as all he can do is whisper into the hearts and minds of mankind.
     
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    Worshipping anyone or thing other than GOD.

    Mankind has free will.
     
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    I think First Nations Americans managed that first so smoke signals are religious innovation too :D
     
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    That is kind of vague (what does constitute worship anyway?), and it is rather weird that a true God would find that a bother in any case.


    Does it? That concept seems to have no meaning at all, and to only have usefulness as an attempt at answering why a supposedly all-powerful God is presumably so limited.
     
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    Does that mean that non-muslims can view the Hijri calendar as filth?
     
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    Well thats your own choice. If you hate what God has revealed than you shall be punished in the hereafter.

    And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. 35:18 Qur'an
     
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    That is quite the interesting statement under these circunstances.

    For one thing, it shows considerable recklessness from you. You regard the Qur`an as perfect truth and that text says that the Torah was a true revelation from God, yet you see fit to call one filth while daring those who reply in kind to fear "afterlife punishment".

    As theologies go, I find that one rather sorry and unconvincing.

    And then there is this 35:18 Qur'an that you just quoted. Not exactly typical of good religious teaching, particularly by the parameters expected of a tradition that acknowledges Ibrahim and Yeshua as prophets, don't you think?
     
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    Worship means respect. If you respect the master, do you ignore the servant or treat them like air? I don't see proof of angels existing, but if I did they would be worthy of respect.

    If Satan exists in the way that many think, it's a powerful being, a god with earthly power. To me believing in that is clear polytheism, whether they worship it or not. There's only one God, no other gods or Satans.
     
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    I believe the jury would be out on Pope Gregory XIII. Nothing in Wikipedia suggests he was either pagan or Christian. It appears he was a lawyer before being called upon by the Church of Rome and then he was a political appointee and elected Pope which can have as much to do with politics as spirituality.
     
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    I believe people who insist on doing mundane things their own way are selfish. If I were in Isreal I would be happy to celebrate the Rosh holiday and if I were in Saudi Arabia I wouldn't have any problem celebrating holy days there either.
     
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    I believe I would prefer you to tell me that the internet is not pagan.
     
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