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FBI uses Antifa Dox to investigate proud boys

Discussion in 'The Political World' started by Labourwave, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. Labourwave

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    This is doing the same **** Ngo was doing the other day.
    They are trying to make bottle-throwing sound like a dangerous assault- but let's be clear here. The bottle which was thrown was a plastic bottle that didn't even hit one of the fascists.

    After the bottle was supposedly thrown the group charged at the protesters from 100 feet away, attacking them.
    One thrown plastic bottle does not justify charging 100 feet to attack a group of protesters. It wasn't self-defense, it was them finding a flimsy excuse to assault people.

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    Changed something I have been corrected on.

    The fascists were literally at the event to recreate the assassination of a socialist by a nationalist which took place in the 60s.
     
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    Despite what people think most bikers are ex-veterans, active military, police, or firefighters. So, even if they're rocking that long hair have some damn respect. But, yeah, generally you got nothing to fear unless you're a complete *** hat or thinking you're going to hurt some women or gank someone -- then, you probably have something to fear, because they will kick your ***, lol.
     
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    Right-wing groups celebrated Yamaguchi as a martyr; they gave a burial coat, kimono, and belt to his parents and performed a memorial service for him. His ashes were interred in Aoyama Cemetery.
    Otoya Yamaguchi - Wikipedia
     
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  4. Labourwave

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    They reenacted Yamaguchi's assasination of the Socialist party leader in Japan.

    After reading the wiki page I realized I am wrong in labelling it a hate crime, so thanks for the link.
    However, celebrating the murder of political opposition is probably a lot more damning at this point, because Proud Boys members have already been convicted for hate crimes themselves.
     
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    Many of these "both sides" folks always mysteriously root for the fascists to kill the anti-fascists, and then turn around and denounce them both to feign neutrality, concealing that they have their own special favourites.
     
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  6. Nakosis

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    I don't think the reenactment was a good idea. I just didn't understand why they would do that.
     
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    Because they think the assassination was a good thing, and are completely happy with similar types of political violence which serve their agenda.

    Gavin Mccinnes has called the proud boys a gang, "chauvinistic", and violent before. He has no issue with political violence.

    This is evidence that they think it is good thing to assassinate political leaders who's politics either A) don't agree with America or B) are socialist.
     
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    I don't have to automatically have special respect for anyone. The last group of vets I revere are WWII vets, since that was the last war worth fighting. Firefighters? Alright.
     
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    Yes. Is this someplace I'm supposed to know about? Apparently it's important to motorcycle culture, which I'm not a part of and don't care about. It's like me expecting a non-metalhead to know what Wacken Open Air is.
     
  10. Nowhere Man

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    Yeah my neighbor goes down to Sturgis every year and my friend is one of the ticket people when you enter. They are the coolest nicest people I've ever met. Upstanding folks. They get along with just about anybody.

    It's goes well with the classic saying , They can be your best friends, or your worst enemy.
     
  11. Mindmaster

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    What if I know both? :D

    But, honestly Sturgis is crazy AF and Wacken is just too damn costly for my interest. Besides, I just can't imagine putting up with a whole day in the sun un-sheltered being very enjoyable -- my pasty white skin will fry as I slip into a heat stroke. I can watch most of it on youtube anyway, lol.
     
  12. Howard Is

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    And the gang rapes, murders and intimidation are always good for a laugh.
     
  13. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    No that is something that people do regardless of affiliations , it's a component of the human condition that's been going on since the dawn of man.
     
  14. Howard Is

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    Which explains why they are so good at organised crime. Highly trained, bonded by paranoid elitism, with an arrogant sense of entitlement.

    There are also plenty of decent bikers with moral backbone. But not in the infamous groups. People have childish bad-boy hero fantasies.

    I have seen them up close btw. My weed dealer is a ‘known associate’.
     
  15. Howard Is

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    Bafflegab.

    If you did a statistical analysis you would find significantly more violent antisocial behaviour in the OMGs.

    And I am talking about OMGs, not the local chapter of the Architects and Accountants Angels.
     
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  16. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    It's called group mentality. Bikers aren't the only ones that have it.
     
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  17. Howard Is

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    Well duh
     
  18. Mindmaster

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    Eh, that's 1%ers... That's not even close to the bulk of bikers -- that's like defining the leftists by their correlation to Antifa. Not exactly the "truth"...

    Biker's run the gamut from drinking buddies, co-workers, whatever... Really, just all types... But, most of them are pretty libertarian or constitutionalist. Probably more vets than anything else though in my experience... anyway... Most of them form up to take care of each others families why they're deployed.
     
  19. Howard Is

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    I agree.
    I’ve known a few in my time.

    And I realise that Sonny Barger formed HA after Korean vets returned to...the misery that so many vets return to.

     
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