FBI "has been seriously and systematically abusing its warrantless electronic surveillance.....

[SA Huguenot]

Is this the same Fox News that said that Biden was taking away your burgers?

This is so silly!
Thinking that if you make Fox news funny, the FISA misuses does not exist!
Are you in denial because CNN did not do their journalistic jobs to uncover these corruption, or are you just totally unaware of what the socialist communist deepstate is doing to your country?

But dont be bothered...
I mean, it is you guys who will pay!
At least the conservatives will be prepared when they have to pay high taxes, and you will again have to stay in denial because your country got destroyed by socialism.

 

[Altfish]

This is so silly!
Thinking that if you make Fox news funny, the FISA misuses does not exist!
Are you in denial because CNN did not do their journalistic jobs to uncover these corruption, or are you just totally unaware of what the socialist communist deepstate is doing to your country?

But dont be bothered...
I mean, it is you guys who will pay!
At least the conservatives will be prepared when they have to pay high taxes, and you will again have to stay in denial because your country got destroyed by socialism.

Have you read the thread?

If not, I'll give you a recap....
Because of its constant spinning and lying (like the hamburger nonsense) I do not trust Fox News as a single source news story. If I see a Fox link like the one provided, I will look for confirmation of the story from a more balanced outlet.

Meanwhile the socialist communist deepstate(sp?) is doing fine, getting the vaccines out, and restarting the economy. Whilst the GOP argue amongst themselves and try to convince people that the election was stolen - bamboo anyone!

 

[SA Huguenot]

Apparently, there supposedly are no independent journalists in the U.S.?

News to me.

Thats why you should watch the Leftist media, and the "Far right Media".
This will enable you to get the true and correct version of events.
I despises CNN, MSNBC and ABC, after I saw how they lied to everyone during the Trump administration, and I was impressed with Fox.
I did find some reports that was questionable, but in comparison with the rest, Fox is very good, and if one watches say CNN, and FOX, you do get to the truth.

I still find that CNN are getting worse by the day, and their bias in reporting White house politics, and protecting Biden from the media, whilst they were woolfs when Trump was in office, is enough evidence that CNN are nothing more than a Leftist propaganda machine Goebbels would have been proud off.

Did you see these baby questions they throw at Biden?
Soft little pink cotton balls.
Oh, Joe is such a nice man, and Jill and him is such a lovely couple, and Joe speaks as a grandpa, and Joe has a nice tone in his voice, and joe's dogs are so cuddly, and joe is a warm man, and Joe....Joe... Joe....

It is sickening to ones stomach when you realise how these so called journalists attempts to BS everyone about the Biden sillyness!

 

[tytlyf]

Bet that's learned in libby school! CNN good, Fox bad!

I watch everything, and Fox is worse than everything when it comes to reporting the facts.

They manipulate the truth all day, everyday

 

[ecco]

Obama apologized for his recklessness in Libya.

Don't you fact check anything beyond looking at Right-wing propaganda?

Romney Gets It Backward - FactCheck.org

Mitt Romney claims the Obama administration issued an “apology for American values” after U.S. embassies were attacked. Not true. Romney refers to a statement issued before mobs attacked either in Egypt or Libya, and faults U.S. diplomats for failing to condemn actions that hadn’t yet happened.

Furthermore, the word “sorry” or “apologize” doesn’t appear in the statement. Under the headline, “U.S. Embassy Condemns Religious Incitement,” the embassy in Cairo said, “Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy.”

Romney has falsely accused Obama of “apologizing for America” many times before. The line has been a dependable applause-getter with conservative audiences. But we found no basis for this claim in Obama’s previous speeches and remarks. And other fact-checkers came to similar conclusions.

​

Sending in an ambassador with a couple of body guards to live in a ranch house was more a State Department fiasco! Who was running the State Department using an off grid email server?

If this is in reference to Benghazi...

1. You really need to do some factual research.
2. You still didn't comment on the lengthy Congressional "investigation".

If "politically motivated" investigations concern you, why don't you complain about Benghazi?
If "politically motivated" investigations concern you, why aren't you criticizing everything Jim Jordan is involved in?

 

[ecco]

A rare retraction.

What retraction are you referring to? Fox saying the lies from their talking heads were just opinions? Is that your idea of a retraction?

A rare retraction. Compare the number of suits and retractions by FOX with the rest of the (D) dominated media.

Since you brought up the number of retractions, you can show us the comparisons. Do you expect me to try to prove your allegations?


In any case, when the rational media, NBC, CNN, NY Times, Wapo make errors, they do publish retractions. Your right-wing radical medial never retracts anything regardless of how blatant the lie or the error.

On a higher level, did Trump ever admit he lied? The latest count is over 30,000 lies and misleading claims. Never one admission.

Do you think any right-wing radical in public life is ever going to admit the 2020 election was actually legitimate? Ha!!

 

[Colt]

Don't you fact check anything beyond looking at Right-wing propaganda?

Romney Gets It Backward - FactCheck.org

Mitt Romney claims the Obama administration issued an “apology for American values” after U.S. embassies were attacked. Not true. Romney refers to a statement issued before mobs attacked either in Egypt or Libya, and faults U.S. diplomats for failing to condemn actions that hadn’t yet happened.

Furthermore, the word “sorry” or “apologize” doesn’t appear in the statement. Under the headline, “U.S. Embassy Condemns Religious Incitement,” the embassy in Cairo said, “Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy.”

Romney has falsely accused Obama of “apologizing for America” many times before. The line has been a dependable applause-getter with conservative audiences. But we found no basis for this claim in Obama’s previous speeches and remarks. And other fact-checkers came to similar conclusions.

​

If this is in reference to Benghazi...

1. You really need to do some factual research.
2. You still didn't comment on the lengthy Congressional "investigation".

If "politically motivated" investigations concern you, why don't you complain about Benghazi?
If "politically motivated" investigations concern you, why aren't you criticizing everything Jim Jordan is involved in?

Yes, I do fact check which leaves you once again with egg on your face. Disagreeing before actually reading posts leads to that.


"Obama apologized for his recklessness in Libya."

Barack Obama says Libya was 'worst mistake' of his presidency

‘Failing to plan’ for the aftermath of Muammar Gaddafi’s downfall is the US president’s biggest regret from his time in office
Barack Obama has said the biggest mistake of his presidency was the lack of planning for the aftermath of Muammar Gaddafi’s ouster in Libya that left the country spiralling into chaos and coming under threat from violent extremists.

Reflecting on his legacy in a Fox News interview aired on Sunday, Obama said his “worst mistake” was “probably failing to plan for the day after what I think was the right thing to do in intervening in Libya.
Obama has conceded that the intervention “didn’t work”.

White House spokesman Josh Earnest on Monday said Obama’s regrets extended to what “the United States and the rest of the members of our coalition didn’t do”.

Barack Obama says Libya was 'worst mistake' of his presidency



"Sending in an ambassador with a couple of body guards to live in a ranch house was more a State Department fiasco! Who was running the State Department using an off grid email server?"

Four State Department Officials Disciplined Following Benghazi Report

A sharply critical report about the State Department's handling of security at the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, has led to disciplinary action against four of the department's officials. One of them, the head of the Diplomatic Security Bureau, has resigned.

News of the report and the actions involving some department officials began to emerge Wednesday afternoon. Initial reports said that three officials had resigned. Later, a department spokesman issued a statement saying that four officials had been disciplined, and one of them — Eric Boswell — had resigned, "effective immediately."


NATIONAL SECURITY
Chronology: The Benghazi Attack And The Fallout
Our original post and earlier update:

Three State Department officials resigned Wednesday following an independent inquiry that sharply criticized security planning prior to an attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya.

The Associated Press, citing an administration official, said Eric Boswell, the assistant secretary of state for diplomatic security, and Charlene Lamb, the deputy assistant secretary responsible for embassy security, had stepped down. The third official wasn't immediately identified, the AP said.

The unclassified summary of the report, released Tuesday night by the Accountability Review Board, cited several key mistakes in the period leading up to the Sept. 11 attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.



Four State Department Officials Disciplined Following Benghazi Report

 

[ecco]

Thats why you should watch the Leftist media, and the "Far right Media".

What "Far right Media" are you referring to? What do you think of when you use the term media? Fox is not a news media outlet. Fox is a platform for opinions from talking heads like Colter, Hannity and Ingrahm. Can you name a Fox news show?

I despises CNN, MSNBC and ABC, after I saw how they lied to everyone during the Trump administration,

Please post three major lies put out by the MSM about Trump.

Here is a story about Trump that is not a lie. Since early 2016, he has told over 30,000 lies and misleading statements. Show me where Fox ever called him out for any of them.

Perhaps you are OK with the leader of a country repeatedly lying to the public. Do you accept it in your country? Does it please you?

Trump's biggest lie started in early 2016 when he started asserting that if he lost the election (to Clinton), it would be because of fraud. He restarted the lie in early 2020 when running against Biden. He told the lie so often that his sheep believed it. Seventy-five percent of Republicans still believe it. Some of them attacked Congress to try to illegally overturn the results of the election.

Fox never called him out for it. The MSM does. Isn't it part of the job of the media to hold officials responsible for their actions.

Trump knows that. That's why Trump, like all wannabe dictators, attacks the press continuously. You don't see that. You see some deep state socialist plot. The danger to our country comes from demagogues like Trump and the sheeples who believe his lies and the right-wing media that perpetuates those lies.

 

[ecco]

Yes, I do fact check which leaves you once again with egg on your face. Disagreeing before actually reading posts leads to that.

Did you say...

Obama apologized for his recklessness in Libya.

Yes, you did.

Where did he apologize? I don't watch lengthy videos to try to find what another poster is referring to.

 

[Colt]

Did you say...

Yes, you did.

Can you back it up with facts?

I already have, you probably missed it when he said it.


President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

 

[tytlyf]

I already have, you probably missed it when he said it.


President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

Would you prefer he lied and didn't take responsibility? Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda and 9/11. Ooops

 

[ecco]

I already have, you probably missed it when he said it.


President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

He acknowledged he made a mistake. About Libya. Previously, you wrote...

Obama apologized for his recklessness in Libya. Sending in an ambassador with a couple of body guards to live in a ranch house was more a State Department fiasco!

You stated he apologized. Do you understand the difference between an acknowledgment and an apology?
You implied the apology regarded the attack on the embassy. In the article you linked, we can clearly read that it concerned the intervention in Libya.

President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

President Barack Obama said the worst mistake of his presidency was failing to prepare for the aftermath Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi’s ousting.

“Probably failing to plan for the day after what I think was the right thing to do in intervening in Libya,” Obama said in an interview with Fox News‘ Chris Wallace that aired Sunday.

Though the president still thinks that getting involved in Libya was the right call, he told the Atlantic‘s Jeffrey Goldberg in a lengthy profile it “didn’t work.”

“We averted large-scale civilian casualties, we prevented what almost surely would have been a prolonged and bloody civil conflict,” Obama said of the U.S.’s efforts to prevent mass slaughter in Libya. “And despite all that, Libya is a mess.”
​

Now, perhaps you can tell us why you feel it is necessary to twist things around.

Also, your linked article does not quote Obama using the term "worst mistake". If it's in the taped video, give us a timestamp.

​

In any case, can you show where your great orange wannabe ever acknowledged any mistake? I can think of a few that resulted in the deaths of many Americans...
Gutting the CDC -

Massive cuts to science and medicine in Trump budget

Massive cuts to science and medicine in Trump budget

The budget proposed by United States President Donald Trump calls for “massive cuts” to spending on medical and scientific research, public health and disease-prevention programs...​

Failure to understand the danger from Covid and failure to act.

A detailed timeline of all the ways Trump failed to respond to the coronavirus

By Cameron Peters@jcameronpeters Jun 8, 2020, 6:00am EDT
A detailed timeline of all the ways Trump failed to respond to the coronavirus
A week and a half ago, the US coronavirus death toll surpassed 100,000 — the most in the world, and more than the next three countries combined.​

That number has only grown in the days since. And in the face of that crisis, President Donald Trump has a message for the American people: It was China’s fault, and the only reason the US death toll isn’t worse is because of his quick action in banning travel from China.

In fact, there are many reasons the US death toll is so high, including a national response plagued by delays at the federal level, wishful thinking by President Trump, the sidelining of experts, a pointed White House campaign to place the blame for the Trump administration’s shortcomings on others, and time wasted chasing down false hopes based on poor science


​

The cult like devotation of Trump's followers is truly amazing.

​

 

[Colt]

He acknowledged he made a mistake. About Libya. Previously, you wrote...


You stated he apologized. Do you understand the difference between an acknowledgment and an apology?
You implied the apology regarded the attack on the embassy. In the article you linked, we can clearly read that it concerned the intervention in Libya.

President Obama Admits the 'Worst Mistake' of His Presidency

President Barack Obama said the worst mistake of his presidency was failing to prepare for the aftermath Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi’s ousting.

“Probably failing to plan for the day after what I think was the right thing to do in intervening in Libya,” Obama said in an interview with Fox News‘ Chris Wallace that aired Sunday.

Though the president still thinks that getting involved in Libya was the right call, he told the Atlantic‘s Jeffrey Goldberg in a lengthy profile it “didn’t work.”

“We averted large-scale civilian casualties, we prevented what almost surely would have been a prolonged and bloody civil conflict,” Obama said of the U.S.’s efforts to prevent mass slaughter in Libya. “And despite all that, Libya is a mess.”
​

Now, perhaps you can tell us why you feel it is necessary to twist things around.

Also, your linked article does not quote Obama using the term "worst mistake". If it's in the taped video, give us a timestamp.

​

In any case, can you show where your great orange wannabe ever acknowledged any mistake? I can think of a few that resulted in the deaths of many Americans...
Gutting the CDC -

Massive cuts to science and medicine in Trump budget

Massive cuts to science and medicine in Trump budget

The budget proposed by United States President Donald Trump calls for “massive cuts” to spending on medical and scientific research, public health and disease-prevention programs...​

Failure to understand the danger from Covid and failure to act.

A detailed timeline of all the ways Trump failed to respond to the coronavirus

By Cameron Peters@jcameronpeters Jun 8, 2020, 6:00am EDT
A detailed timeline of all the ways Trump failed to respond to the coronavirus
A week and a half ago, the US coronavirus death toll surpassed 100,000 — the most in the world, and more than the next three countries combined.​

That number has only grown in the days since. And in the face of that crisis, President Donald Trump has a message for the American people: It was China’s fault, and the only reason the US death toll isn’t worse is because of his quick action in banning travel from China.

In fact, there are many reasons the US death toll is so high, including a national response plagued by delays at the federal level, wishful thinking by President Trump, the sidelining of experts, a pointed White House campaign to place the blame for the Trump administration’s shortcomings on others, and time wasted chasing down false hopes based on poor science

​

The cult like devotation of Trump's followers is truly amazing.

​

Sure, Obama was apologizing like a politician. I respect him for it. Its you who is still trying to save face on his behalf. Obama toppled Libya and its dictator, he had no real plan for the aftermath and it descended into kayos. The state department prematurely sent in an ambassador, disregarded his repeated pleas for help, he was killed and you are still defensive about it.

I like Obama the person and his beautiful family. He's just a naïve liberal.

 

[tytlyf]

He's just a naïve liberal.

I don't think people refer to Obama as a liberal. He's more moderate/centrist.
Don't let your media trick you.

 

[ecco]

The state department prematurely sent in an ambassador, disregarded his repeated pleas for help, he was killed and you are still defensive about it.

Which ambassador are you talking about? The person who was killed in the attack was Christopher Stevens. Clinton wanted him taken out of Libya. He insisted on staying because he felt he was really doing a lot of good. How is it that you did not know this?



On another front...

NEWS BACKGROUNDER: Even After Benghazi Attack, House Leaders Continued To Block Embassy Security Funds | U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont

10.21.15
NEWS BACKGROUNDER: Even After Benghazi Attack, House Leaders Continued To Block Embassy Security Funds
Leahy: “. . . pure, distilled hypocrisy”

Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt., and then-chairman of the State Department’s budget committee – the State Department and Foreign Operations Subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee), pushed for more embassy security funding than House Republicans were willing to provide – both before and after the Benghazi attack.

Leahy said: “House Republicans have wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a partisan exercise. For that, and for blaming the Administration for failing to protect our diplomats, without acknowledging their own efforts to slash resources for embassy security, is pure, distilled hypocrisy.”

BEFORE BENGHAZI: After Republicans took over the House in January 2011 -- before the Benghazi attack -- they proposed deep cuts for U.S. embassy operations and State Department programs across the board, including for diplomatic and embassy facility security. The House Republican Appropriations Committee cut $1 billion from the embassy security budget proposed by the Obama Administration in the two years prior to the Benghazi attack.

​

How is it that you did not know this either?

 

[Colt]

A good example of Left leaning bias and editing is on this very site. The mods actually removed the entire thread of the widely reported NY AG and fake, pro Net Neutrality comments in attempts to persuade the FCC. They rationalized a rule #4 violation. They are saying that the topic itself (in the North American Politics) thread is off topic???




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[Colt]

Which ambassador are you talking about? The person who was killed in the attack was Christopher Stevens. Clinton wanted him taken out of Libya. He insisted on staying because he felt he was really doing a lot of good. How is it that you did not know this?



On another front...

NEWS BACKGROUNDER: Even After Benghazi Attack, House Leaders Continued To Block Embassy Security Funds | U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont

10.21.15
NEWS BACKGROUNDER: Even After Benghazi Attack, House Leaders Continued To Block Embassy Security Funds
Leahy: “. . . pure, distilled hypocrisy”

Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt., and then-chairman of the State Department’s budget committee – the State Department and Foreign Operations Subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee), pushed for more embassy security funding than House Republicans were willing to provide – both before and after the Benghazi attack.

Leahy said: “House Republicans have wasted millions of taxpayer dollars on a partisan exercise. For that, and for blaming the Administration for failing to protect our diplomats, without acknowledging their own efforts to slash resources for embassy security, is pure, distilled hypocrisy.”

BEFORE BENGHAZI: After Republicans took over the House in January 2011 -- before the Benghazi attack -- they proposed deep cuts for U.S. embassy operations and State Department programs across the board, including for diplomatic and embassy facility security. The House Republican Appropriations Committee cut $1 billion from the embassy security budget proposed by the Obama Administration in the two years prior to the Benghazi attack.

​

How is it that you did not know this either?

Turns out the Biden Cult is bigger.

How is it that you don't know that the State Deportments own investigation " faulted” systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels” for the inadequate security at the mission?

 

[ecco]

Turns out the Biden Cult is bigger.

Based on what? That he got more votes than Trump? Are you actually admitting Trump lost by 7,000,000 million votes?


In any event, many of the votes for Biden were not for a "Biden Cult" reason. Many were against the "Trump Cult" reelection possibility.

CULT

a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
"the cult of St. Olaf"

• a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
  "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders"

Show me how that applies to Biden. We know how it applies to Trump. Examples:

• Head bobbing sheeples at Trump rallies.
• Invasion of the Capitol.
• Blind excusal of all of Trump's lies.
• Blind belief in The Big Election Lie.

Now, it's your turn. Show us such slavish devotion for Biden.

How is it that you don't know that the State Deportments own investigation " faulted” systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels” for the inadequate security at the mission?

You no longer get to answer questions with questions. Answer the questions I have asked.

 

[Colt]

Based on what? That he got more votes than Trump? Are you actually admitting Trump lost by 7,000,000 million votes?


In any event, many of the votes for Biden were not for a "Biden Cult" reason. Many were against the "Trump Cult" reelection possibility.

CULT

a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
"the cult of St. Olaf"

• a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
  "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders"

Show me how that applies to Biden. We know how it applies to Trump. Examples:

• Head bobbing sheeples at Trump rallies.
• Invasion of the Capitol.
• Blind excusal of all of Trump's lies.
• Blind belief in The Big Election Lie.

Now, it's your turn. Show us such slavish devotion for Biden.



You no longer get to answer questions with questions. Answer the questions I have asked.

Admitting that Biden got more votes than Trump??? I never said they didn’t. You are still having conversations with imaginary Trump lovers. Biden got 15,000,000+ more votes than Obama.

Biden’s followers voted for a confused geriatric patient who’s own press secretary acknowledged that he is protected from Q & A. His life long plagiarism, phony ***-hatery and profiting off of his office meant nothing to his followers who were voting against Trump and for a socialist agenda more than for a strong leader.

The Cultic nature of the America hating Left is more of an ideological cult.

The reason they call Trump a cult leader is because the unhappy Left is JEALOUS of his popularity. Bumbling Biden would draw crowds of 12 or so.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Would you prefer he lied and didn't take responsibility? Iraq had nothing to do with Al Qaeda and 9/11. Ooops

What's oops is overlooking Iraq had harbored Al Qaeda within its borders. Bush clearly warned that the US will go after them and those countries who harbor them.

Fallujah. Ring a bell?