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Favourite Atheist arguments
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Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
I remember loving arguments and apologetics when I was a teenager/young adult (32 now haven't been young for a while.)
So I was curious what do atheists think is there most convincing argument against God?
Ha. I'm not really a "prove god does not exist" since I wasn't raised abrahamic so don't know what god is to form more than an opinion. Nonetheless, it seems all gods tend to be a part of people's culture, interpretation, and their need to find purpose and meaning. Whether they see it as an incarnation, practice, or experience like a spiritual awakening, it pretty much goes back to humans. Thousands of years ago we used to think we were the center of the universe (maybe hundreds or decades, who knows?). Maybe we used to think gods are actually real just as human beings.
Another thing is we have so many definition of god(s) that to even say one exist and the others do not is really pushing it. Unless one can prove humans don't have a connection and creation with the gods they believe in or experience in practice, I don't really have other arguments. "No evidence" isn't really a thing I use because there is evidence of god and people's experiences of gods just not in the way most atheist on RF tend to define it (and accept from others how it is defined).
Tarasan, if you believe in god (Muslim, Jew, Christian, whomever), how do you define god and prove god's existence outside your own (and other people's) interpretation of it?
I remember loving arguments and apologetics when I was a teenager/young adult (32 now haven't been young for a while
So I was curious what do atheists think is there most convincing argument against God?
Lack of evidence for
Bucket loads of empirical evidence against
Congress.
tarasan
Well-Known Member
What's the emperical evidence?
Until convincing evidence is presented, I can't accept the concept as an aspect of reality.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
The Problem of Evil is probabl the most accessible argument against a popular form of deity.
Lack of historicity and lack of scientific accuracy in Holy Books and myths could be another.
Lack of historicity and lack of scientific accuracy in Holy Books and myths could be another.
Pretty much this ^, except I would qualify it to specify 'unambiguous evidence'. I think there are numerous cases that can legitimately be seen as providing evidence for a god, but in the manner of ambiguous evidence, because they would be in line with what could be expected if there were a god by at least one or more definitions.
To be sure, I am not talking about stuff like, "Sunsets convince me there must be a creator." That's not much in the way of evidence unless you place it in the context of a chain of reasoning that would make aesthetic experiences and emotional reactions to them credible as evidence for deity, and most people stop short of that, somewhere around, "I can't imagine why I'd like sunsets unless my god arranged things so I'd feel this moved by them."
tarasan
Well-Known Member
The logical problem of evil has been considered to be solved since like 1972. I did a dissertation on it. Do u mean the evidential?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I remember loving arguments and apologetics when I was a teenager/young adult (32 now haven't been young for a while
So I was curious what do atheists think is there most convincing argument against God?
That I don't have to believe in a god/gods to have a life.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
But neither way decides what reality really is or if reality is natural or from God. For that we only have beliefs.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
You did? What about evil was the dissertation about?
Childhood leukaemia
The futility of prayer
The anopheles mosquito
The marmot
Are just a few.
tarasan
Well-Known Member
It was the logical problem of evil essentially it tries to find a logical contradiction between a good god and evil existiing
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Now you just have to show that logic match the rest of reality one to one and that all of reality is logical. Good luck with that.
Hey! Some of my best friends are marmots!
