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Fasting

Discussion in 'Hinduism DIR' started by Terese, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. Terese

    Terese Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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    How exactly is fasting beneficial for one's health? What does it do? I used to 'fast' from 9 am to 3 pm but I didn't call it that because i didn't have any food. If it is beneficial, I can do it, because I don't eat much. :)
     
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    Fasting mostly seems to be about discipline. Which must be why I'm awful at it ;):p
     
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    Same here. I have heard of religious reasons to fast, but it essentially boils down to personal discipline.

    At least, that's how I see it.
     
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  4. Aupmanyav

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    While I agree to what SomeRandom and Starry say, I think you should do it the other way round, i.e., eat in the morning and do not take food later in the day. Science wants you to have a good breakfast, the eight-hour night also is a fast and you are already low on calories. It is lunch and no food later, that is what we term as 'Ekāsanā' (Food at one sitting - āsana). Getting up in the middle of the food will break the 'Ekāsana'. So, if you get up for any reason, that is the end of the meal. Mind you, you can take milk, fruits and non-cereal food in the evening, that is a person's choice. By non-cereal, we mean grains which do not have a furrow in the middle, 'dvidala', divided in two.

    Moreover, as my wife, my theist counter-part, does it, the 'Ekāsana' food has to be prepared in a very clean way, kitchen and utensils undergo complete cleaning before being used, eaten while sitting separately from the other (unclean) members of the family, of course vegetarian, and none should touch her food when she is partaking it. That too is the end of 'Ekāsana'. :D
     
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  5. Shimi

    Shimi Lupus Ovis Pelle Indutus

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    Mm.

    As stated above fasting is very much a religious and spiritual act. However, I think people overlook it's other health benefits.

    Fasting (namely water wasting) is a superb method of detoxification. Mental clarity, heightened energy, weight loss, the list goes on! Personally I would like to start fasting once per week and just see how it goes!
     
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  6. Terese

    Terese Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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    So if i were to fast everyday, when could i eat, and when could i not? And if it's too unhealthy to fast everyday (i am 47kg and 5'2) when could i do so?
     
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    Simple. You should not fast so frequently and actually pay attention to put on some more weight. That builds up your reserve against any disease. In yiour case, you should not fast more than once a week, and that too not a severe fast. You are already underweight. According to the information below you should weigh somewhere around 120 lbs, Don't push yourself towards 'Anorexia'.

    "Anorexia nervosa, often referred to simply as anorexia, is an eating disorder characterized by a low weight, fear of gaining weight, a strong desire to be thin, and food restriction." - Wikipedia

    Based on the Robinson formula (1983), your ideal weight is 115.5 lbs
    Based on the Miller formula (1983), your ideal weight is 123.1 lbs
    Based on the Devine formula (1974), your ideal weight is 110.5 lbs
    Based on the Hamwi formula (1964), your ideal weight is 110.0 lbs
    Based on the healthy BMI recommendation, your recommended weight is 101.1 lbs - 136.7 lbs
    http://www.calculator.net/ideal-wei...ghtinch=2&cheightmeter=180&printit=0&x=63&y=1
     
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    Terese Mangalam Pundarikakshah
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    I'm underweight??? Are you sure? :O
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Yes, at least by 10 pounds/sort of 5 kg. You are not even flyweight. You are light flyweight or pinweight in Amature Boxing 45–48 kg (99–106 lb). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weight_class_(boxing)#Amateur_boxing

    Well, I too was a Bantam-weight, not even a light-weight, most of my life. :)
    Edit: But I have a high Basal Metabolic Rate, so even if I ate a lot, it would not show up as weight. It does not, even now.
     
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  10. Vinayaka

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    No. All that stuff quoted doesn't consider body type. If you have energy as usual, you're fine.
     
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  11. Jainarayan

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    Qft ("quoted for truth").

    Before I stopped working out and started getting fat (an issue to be addressed), I had a BMI of low 30s, scale weight of about 200 lbs, which is in the obese category, but a body fat % in the low 20s... slightly overweight but nothing to panic over. The scale weight was from power lifting (which I reminded myself is actually no excuse to get fat). So, it does indeed depend on body composition and body type.
     
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    I've tried to keep Ekādaśī fasts, which come every 11 days (duh! :p) after the full or new moon. When I remember them (tomorrow 7/15 is ekādaśī) I am pretty good at keeping them, though I don't use the time properly, i.e. scriptures, prayer, etc. I'm usually tired, cranky, and hungry with a bangeroo of a headache all day. So how productive is that?

    They're not all that restrictive, in that you can eat fruit, dairy, and most vegs. It's all grains and legumes that are prohibited. Coffee is iffy from what I read, but it's just a nasty habit I have. I should refrain from it on ekādaśī for the disciplinary aspect. I have also tried fasting on pradoṣa (being fond of Lord Shiva also), but the problem is that usually the way the tithi falls, it's not possible to properly break the ekādaśī fast and begin the pradoṣa fast, i.e. they overlap.

    When I was Eastern Orthodox it seemed every other day was a fasting day... actually, Wed. and Fri. were fasting days. But to the point, my parish priest used to say "God does not need the fast, man does". So I think if one can do it, do it; if not, don't. I'll never believe that God/dess would want us to suffer in the name of devotion or rules.
     
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  13. Aupmanyav

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    Slightly overweight! Haw, haw, haw. :D
    Ekadashi, after every 15 days.
    Baseline - never be impractical.
     
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    Generally seizure patients are advised to fast (or take up a high-fat diet).
     
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    ??? Fast and high-fat diet???
     
  16. Fireside_Hindu

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    I think the bottom line here is, if you are worried about health, talk to a doctor about weight, exercise, metabolism etc. The internet will give a thousand different answers. Everyone's body is different. I'm *technically* within a healthy body weight for my height, age and gender (albeit on the high end of that scale), but I don't really exercise, which not good for my heart or long term health, so, yeah - get the advice of a doctor.
     
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    It's true about the high fat diet for seizures. It's well-documented. It also seems to improve mood stability in bipolar patients, and keep migraines at bay. Epilepsy, bipolar and migraines seem to be related deep in the brain. The diet has to be ketogenic though, with carbs < 20-30 per day. For a non-vegetarian that's easy-peasy... it's all meat, eggs, fish, vegs, very little fruit. Contrary to popular belief, it will not raise cholesterol or risk for heart disease. For vegetarians it's a bit harder, but not impossible.
     
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    Ask a medical professional. It's all very noble to want to fast, but one must also take heed of practical advice and be mindful of health.
    I do not fast because well I don't really do so well without food.
     
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