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Farmer calls out Trump...

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Thought this was a good video regarding the issues farmers are now facing, but I wonder what Trump's other base thinks about these struggling farmers?

 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Thought this was a good video regarding the issues farmers are now facing, but I wonder what Trump's other base thinks about these struggling farmers?


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Monday that his administration was planning to provide about $15 billion in aid to help U.S. farmers whose products may be targeted with tariffs by China in a deepening trade war.


“We’re going to take the highest year, the biggest purchase that China has ever made with our farmers, which is about $15 billion, and do something reciprocal to our farmers so our farmers can do well,” Trump told reporters at the White House.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Monday that his administration was planning to provide about $15 billion in aid to help U.S. farmers whose products may be targeted with tariffs by China in a deepening trade war.


“We’re going to take the highest year, the biggest purchase that China has ever made with our farmers, which is about $15 billion, and do something reciprocal to our farmers so our farmers can do well,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

And he was immediately called out for trying to buy minority votes. Just can't win lol. Help somebody your buying em off, deny help and you're a racist.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Monday that his administration was planning to provide about $15 billion in aid to help U.S. farmers whose products may be targeted with tariffs by China in a deepening trade war.


“We’re going to take the highest year, the biggest purchase that China has ever made with our farmers, which is about $15 billion, and do something reciprocal to our farmers so our farmers can do well,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

So Trump won't let our farmers sell their soybeans, but he's going to take your tax dollars to prop up US farmers.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
So Trump won't let our farmers sell their soybeans, but he's going to take your tax dollars to prop up US farmers.

Trump is discouraging Americans from buying Chinese products with tariffs that our government will use to buy soybeans from American farmers; so then, American school children will have soy burgers and soy pizza every day on their school lunch menu, healthy nutrition that Michelle Obama would like fed to American children .
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Well the good news is that Trump continues to screw over his base. Farmers do not forget when people do this to them.

Last year, $12 billion of financial aid was provided to American farmers who lost export sales to China, which imposed tariffs on American agriculture products. Hence, our government has indeed well compensated farmers for their lost export sales to China.

USDA Announces $12 Billion Short-Term Tariff Relief Program

This year, $15 billion of financial aid is in store for farmers who've lost export sales to China.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Monday that his administration was planning to provide about $15 billion in aid to help U.S. farmers whose products may be targeted with tariffs by China in a deepening trade war.


“We’re going to take the highest year, the biggest purchase that China has ever made with our farmers, which is about $15 billion, and do something reciprocal to our farmers so our farmers can do well,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

Farm Union President Calls Trump's Proposed $15 Billion Subsidy An Insufficient, 'Temporary' Solution

"These retaliatory tariffs from China could not come at a worse time for family farmers and ranchers, who are already coping with depressed commodity prices, environmental disasters, and chronic oversupply," Johnson told Newsweek in an emailed statement. "Though we are glad that the administration is considering additional assistance, such temporary solutions are not sufficient to address the permanent damage the trade war has inflicted on agricultural export markets. In addition to short-term relief, we ask that Congress adopt meaningful, long-term solutions that will ensure the economic viability of family farm agriculture."

Farm union president calls Trump's proposed $15 billion subsidy an insufficient, "temporary" solution
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
You mean you see a black man instead of a farmer? What's wrong with you?

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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Farm Union President Calls Trump's Proposed $15 Billion Subsidy An Insufficient, 'Temporary' Solution

"These retaliatory tariffs from China could not come at a worse time for family farmers and ranchers, who are already coping with depressed commodity prices, environmental disasters, and chronic oversupply," Johnson told Newsweek in an emailed statement. "Though we are glad that the administration is considering additional assistance, such temporary solutions are not sufficient to address the permanent damage the trade war has inflicted on agricultural export markets. In addition to short-term relief, we ask that Congress adopt meaningful, long-term solutions that will ensure the economic viability of family farm agriculture."

Farm union president calls Trump's proposed $15 billion subsidy an insufficient, "temporary" solution

In support of our farmers and the environment, I'm going to consume the impossible burger, which should be reasonably priced...:)

 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Thought this was a good video regarding the issues farmers are now facing, but I wonder what Trump's other base thinks about these struggling farmers?


It's hard to say, although a key part of Trump's base was not just farmers, but also blue-collar former industrial regions now known as The Rust Belt. A lot of these areas have become economically depressed and stagnant. All due to outsourcing, free trade, and the moving of US jobs to other countries where the wages and standard of living are much lower.

The irony is that it was the Republicans who supported these globalist policies wholeheartedly, while pro-labor Democrats were largely against such policies...until Clinton.

As for the video, I think they'll probably help out the farmers if they need it - although they may not need it if China makes a deal.

We still have a large trade deficit with China. We still buy much more from them than we sell to them. The video showed the numbers, and it's been going on like that for decades. Sure, it might hurt a bit if we don't take in as much profit in exports, but it's been hurting far more over the past several decades considering how much money America is losing in imports. Over the years, it probably adds up to trillions of dollars. Add to that our ever-increasing national debt, and we're facing a serious crunch here.

Some might say it's better to bite the bullet now rather than wait for even worse consequences down the line.

Another thing that comes to mind while reading the third thread this afternoon about the soybean farmers: If America's economic future depends on the export of agricultural products, then we're in worse shape than anyone is letting on.

We were once the giant of industry, on the cutting edge of science and technology. Now, all we have left is beans.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
But to be serious for a bit, China is ripping our intellectual property off and playing games to unfairly compete. I don't think we can really let them get away with it for too much longer.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
It's hard to say, although a key part of Trump's base was not just farmers, but also blue-collar former industrial regions now known as The Rust Belt. A lot of these areas have become economically depressed and stagnant. All due to outsourcing, free trade, and the moving of US jobs to other countries where the wages and standard of living are much lower.

The irony is that it was the Republicans who supported these globalist policies wholeheartedly, while pro-labor Democrats were largely against such policies...until Clinton.

As for the video, I think they'll probably help out the farmers if they need it - although they may not need it if China makes a deal.

We still have a large trade deficit with China. We still buy much more from them than we sell to them. The video showed the numbers, and it's been going on like that for decades. Sure, it might hurt a bit if we don't take in as much profit in exports, but it's been hurting far more over the past several decades considering how much money America is losing in imports. Over the years, it probably adds up to trillions of dollars. Add to that our ever-increasing national debt, and we're facing a serious crunch here.

Some might say it's better to bite the bullet now rather than wait for even worse consequences down the line.

Another thing that comes to mind while reading the third thread this afternoon about the soybean farmers: If America's economic future depends on the export of agricultural products, then we're in worse shape than anyone is letting on.

We were once the giant of industry, on the cutting edge of science and technology. Now, all we have left is beans.

But the sad part is the farmers whom supported Trump's ideas are suffering. No long term solutions have been presented as the following states:

"These retaliatory tariffs from China could not come at a worse time for family farmers and ranchers, who are already coping with depressed commodity prices, environmental disasters, and chronic oversupply," Johnson told Newsweek in an emailed statement. "Though we are glad that the administration is considering additional assistance, such temporary solutions are not sufficient to address the permanent damage the trade war has inflicted on agricultural export markets. In addition to short-term relief, we ask that Congress adopt meaningful, long-term solutions that will ensure the economic viability of family farm agriculture."

Farm union president calls Trump's proposed $15 billion subsidy an insufficient, "temporary" solution
 
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