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Featured Faith in science?

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by Jaiket, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Brian2

    Brian2 Well-Known Member

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    The quote you gave does reflect a faith in science and a faith in naturalism when there seems to be no evidence for it except that faith.
     
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  2. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Now we have a stone, a piece of rock, and success. They are the same. You can see both in the same sense. Hold them and do other things with them as per your physical body. They both have dimensions and other with instruments measurable properties.
     
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    That you can't call something scientific if it is not based on evidence.
     
  4. Altfish

    Altfish Veteran Member

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    The definition of science is something like..."the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment."
    So, if it falls outside that, then no, science won't help.
     
  5. WalterTrull

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    Yeah, physical science. I have more faith in spiritual science. It sort of answers a lot more questions.
     
  6. mikkel_the_dane

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    Okay, does evidence have a limit?
     
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    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea what is supposed to mean or how it address the points raised.
     
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    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    What is "spiritual science" and how does it "answer a lot more questions"?

    Give a practical example.
     
  9. TagliatelliMonster

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    I don't understand the question. Rephrase?
     
  10. exchemist

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    Well yes exactly and I agree about the zombies. The sensation of redness for one person might - conceivably - be the sensation of greenness for another (though I bet it's not). We can't know as we are not them and there is no objective way to get a handle on "the sensation of redness".

    It feels to me as if Pigliucci is right and there is a category mistake in demanding that science explain "experience", when it is inherently subjective.
     
  11. mikkel_the_dane

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    Success is an objective as observable eternal sensory experience thing with physical properties. E.g. weight, so how much does this success you mentioned weigh?
     
  12. mikkel_the_dane

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  13. TagliatelliMonster

    TagliatelliMonster Well-Known Member

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    You're making zero sense. I can't take this seriously. You know better.
     
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  15. mikkel_the_dane

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    Better is is an objective as observable eternal sensory experience thing with physical properties. E.g. weight, so how much does this better you mentioned weigh?
     
  16. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, it started with, that science is the best tool, we have. I would like evidence for that. Just like I want evidence for your success.
     
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    Repeating nonsense won't make it not nonsense.

    The success of a methodology pertains to the ability to come up with accurate answers when applied to problems.
    Science is the most successful methodology in that sense.

    I have no idea what you are on about.
     
  18. TagliatelliMonster

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    .... to study the natural world.

    I already gave it to you.
    You handwaved it away with BS.


    The fact that you're reading this.
     
  19. mikkel_the_dane

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    Problems weigh what? What are the objective physical properties of problems? What is the scientific theory of problems?
     
  20. mikkel_the_dane

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    What is the natural world?
     
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