Facts Found From Creation Science

[james bond]

OK, in an environment under constant pressure and temperature(like our atmosphere), the appropriate variable to deal with both heat flow and entropy is called the Gibb's fre energy and is G=H-ST. Here, H is the heat, S is the entropy, and T is the temperature. A reaction is spontaneous only if G decreases. This can happen in two main ways: H decreases (heat flows out of the system) or S increases (entropy increases).

So, for example, when water freezes, S decreases, but H also decreases (heat flows out of the water). If the temperature T is low enough the change in H compensates for the change in S and the water will freeze. But if T is large, the entropy part dominates and the water does not freeze, it melts.

Okay, but where are you going with this?

 

[Polymath257]

Okay, but where are you going with this?

if the heat released to the environment is enough, an increase in entropy is allowed and is even spontaneous. For living things, there is a *huge* release of heat into the environment which more than balances any increase in entropy that happens during evolution. Remember, that evolution happens over the course of many generations, so even extra heat of heat can drive a signifficant increase of entropy over time.

 

[james bond]

if the heat released to the environment is enough, an increase in entropy is allowed and is even spontaneous. For living things, there is a *huge* release of heat into the environment which more than balances any increase in entropy that happens during evolution. Remember, that evolution happens over the course of many generations, so even extra heat of heat can drive a signifficant increase of entropy over time.

Wait, I thought evolution wanted a decrease in entropy. The entropy whether in equilibrium or state of increasing entropy is the state which does not violate the SLOT.

Even if evolution takes many generations, it still has to deal with the increasing entropy.

To put it in layman's terms, we are going to face some kind of scientific apocalypse one worldview or another. Do you agree?

 

[Polymath257]

Wait, I thought evolution wanted a decrease in entropy. The entropy whether in equilibrium or state of increasing entropy is the state which does not violate the SLOT.

Even if evolution takes many generations, it still has to deal with the increasing entropy.

To put it in layman's terms, we are going to face some kind of scientific apocalypse one worldview or another. Do you agree?

Once again, when water freezes, there is a *local* decrease in entropy, but heat goes into the environment, which gives an overall increase.

The exact same thing happens in life: there is a local decrease in entropy but a release of heat which gives an overall increase. More specifically, the Gibb's fre energy always decreases, as required by thermodynamics.

No, they two (evolution and thermodynamics) are perfectly consistent. But you have to understand what both actually say instead of fairy tales.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'm glad you're reading about Sir Francis Bacon. He is considered the father of the scientific method.

Moreover, you need to do your own work and not depend on others to answer common questions that you have, especially when you hold an opposing worldview to theirs. I'll give you some clues. In what year, did Sir Francis Bacon come up with the scientific method?

Who and when came up with the laws of thermodynamics? Who and when did they come up with SLOT? What scientific methods did they use?

As for what SFB believed in, find out if he believed in creation or Genesis? Did he believe in God?

What about the people who came up with the LOT and SLOT?

How many of his explanations invoked god(s)? How many of his scientific explanations included any god(s) at all?

Oh right. None. In fact, he seemed to think that our natural human bias to seek metaphysical explanations that have no actual basis in real observation, can cloud our ability to do real science.