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Facts About Islam

Discussion in 'Islam DIR' started by Sajdah, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. Sajdah

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    Part One: The Holy Qur'an.

    The discredit:
    In the earlier times, the so-called non-Muslim scholars of the Qur'an made several arguments challenging its authenticity. Among the chief accusations were that it was a book written by Prophet Muhammad, or a scripture copied from the Old and New Testament as dictated by Khadeeja bint Khawlid, (the wife of the Prophet), or a document compiled by Muslim scholars over a period of 300 years, or a scripture that was secretly compiled at the Vatican to be delivered to the Prophet through Christian missionaries in Arabia, or a book that was compiled at the time of the third Caliph Uthman.

    The Fact:

    The authenticity of a book depends on its verification by the one that either authored it or narrated it. For example, some 15 years ago, a German scholar claimed to have made an earth-shaking discovery when he published what he called ‘The Diaries of Adolph Hitler’. The London Times published excerpts of the diary, describing it as the most sensational story of the century. A few months later, it was conclusively proven that the diary was fake and was written by anonymous authors. The major argument advanced to disprove the book was that no one knew about it, not even the closest of Hitler's supporters. Above all, he never approved it or delivered it to anyone.
    If the book or scriptures attributed to an individual--as an author or a source of narration--is compiled and verified in the lifetime of that narrator or author, then its authenticity can be taken as face value. Otherwise, doubt will remain in the minds of readers regarding the true origin of the book or of the contents of the book.

    Among all the religious books that exist today, the Qur'an is the only one that has the privilege of being compiled and approved by the Prophet who received it. Azvesta, the book of Zoroastrian, was compiled 1,500 years after the death of its author. Hindu Vedas were written hundreds of years after the death of sages who were described as the authors. The Ramayana was orally transmitted until it was written down 1,600 hundreds of years after the event. The Bhagvad Gita was in the memories of people for hundreds of years before it was committed to writing. The Old Testament was compiled by more than 40 authors. A cursory look at some basic facts suggests that it took a while for the Bible to appear as a final version of scriptures.
    The Bible contains 66 books, divided among the Old and New Testaments. However, some Christian denominations believe that it has 73 chapters. Over 40 different authors from all walks of life wrote the Bible: shepherds, farmers, tent-makers, physicians, fishermen, priests, philosophers and kings. Prophet Moses reportedly wrote the first five books of the Bible, referred to as the Pentateuch; the foundation of the Bible. The Apostle Paul wrote 14 books (over half) of the New Testament. It took almost 1500 years to complete the scriptures. The Bible was written over a period of 1,500 years, from around 1,450 B.C. (the time of Moses) to about 100 A.D. Many scholars agree that ‘Job’ is the oldest book in the Bible, written by an unknown Israelite about 1,500 B.C. Others hold that the ‘Pentateuch’ (the first five books of the Bible) are the oldest books in the Bible, written between 1,446 and 1,406 B.C. The book of Malachi, was written in about 400 B.C.
    The Book of Revelation is the youngest book of the New Testament, written about 95 A.D. The Bible was written in three languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek. The entire New Testament as we know it today was accepted in the year 375 A.D. The Old Testament had previously been accepted as a sacred text long before the advent of Christ. The oldest almost-complete manuscript of the Bible now in existence is the Codex Vaticanus, which dates from the first half of the fourth century. It is located in the library of the Vatican in Rome. Older fragments of the Bible do exist, however -- a tiny scrap of the Gospel of John was found in Egypt, dating back to the beginning of the second century. (It is currently in the Rayland's Library in Manchester, England.) These facts about the Bible provide an authentic proof of its written format several hundred years after the departure of their authors.........


     
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  2. Sajdah

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    The Qur’an… The History of Documentation

    On the other hand, the Qur'an is the only divine scripture that was compiled during the lifetime of the Prophet who, according to the Qur'an, received it. There were only three who knew the message of the Qur'an before it was pronounced to the people: God, angel Gabriel and Prophet Muhammad. In the historically accepted Muslim sources, angel Gabriel was the link between the Divine and the Prophet. The Prophet would receive the revelation and repeat it back to the Angel, who would commit it to his memory and then pronounce it to the people and instruct them to write it down, since he was unable to read or write himself.
    From the day he received the first revelation until he departed, all Prophet Muhammad received in revelation was pronounced to the People who committed it to their memories and also wrote on the available writing material. By the time the Prophet departed, the Qur'an was already written in the form of a book from cover to cover. The Prophet is reported to have approved the Qur'an after listening to it from men and women who had memorized it and written it. A copy of this Qur'an was with his wife Hafsa bint Omar. Consequently, this was used as the master copy when duplications were made during the time of Caliphs Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman and Ali. (See the chapter on the Qur'an in Sahih el-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim).
    Some Muslim accounts of the history of the compilation as mentioned in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim provide the information that the Qur'an was compiled in the form and format we see today, at the time of Caliphs Abu Bakr and Uthman. In fact, one such account says that when Omar asked the first caliph to commission the compilation of the Qur'an, he refused saying why would he do something that the Prophet did not do (Sahih el-Bukhari). Similarly, another account claims that the third Caliph Uthman appointed a commission of six people to compile the Qur'an as there were different copies of the Qur'an present in different parts of the world.


    These two accounts require closer examination on the basis of several other narrations that are mentioned in several books of hadith. First, the two accounts never say that the Prophet didn't compile the Qur'an. Second, the two accounts do not refer to other narrations in the books of hadith including the Bukhari and Muslim that conclusively prove that the entire Qur'an as is present today, was compiled at the time of the Prophet. What is often confused in these narrations is the difference between ‘compilation’ and ‘copying’. While the Qur'an was compiled at the time of the Prophet, the mass scale copying of the Qur'an began officially at the time of Caliph Abu Bakr. During the lifetime of the Prophet, several of his companions had complete sets of the Qur'anic verses, which they had arranged according to their reading schedule with their own notes. Some were complete and others were not.
    However, it was at the time of Caliph Abu Bakr that an official copy of the Qur'an was made from the master copy that was with Hafsa bint Omar. Most books of ‘hadith’ (traditions and sayings of the Prophet) mention that those who were responsible for copying the Qur'an from the master returned the original to Hafsa after ensuring the authenticity of the latest duplicated scriptures. Several early Muslim historians and writers even tried to count the number of copies of the Qur'an that were distributed to different parts of the world where Islam had reached. For instance, according to Ibn Hazm, a famous Muslim scholar, there were several hundred copies of the Qur'an circulating in different parts of the world at the time of second Caliph Umar. It is possible that several people may have made copies from the copies during that time. Hence when the third Caliph Uthman asked a group of Qur'an scholars to review the existing copies of the scriptures, it is not surprising that he may have found discrepancies. Consequently, he asked people to destroy the inauthentic copies that were in circulation, and use only the ones that matched the original Qur'an.


    Thus the Qur'an remains the only scripture that was compiled during the lifetime of a prophet who had received it directly from the divine source. It is this fact that many scholars seek to challenge. Skeptical about the divine origin of the Qur'an, they resist the premise that God spoke to humanity and sent His trusted angel to communicate His message to His messengers including the last of the messengers, Prophet Muhammad.

    They don't accept it because this cannot be proved empirically. They cannot empirically verify the location of God and Angel Gabriel. Hence they argue that the whole story about the origins Qur'an is fabricated. But the attack on the Qur'an does not come only from secularists or empiricists. It also comes from Christian and Jewish scholars whose religions depend on the notion of the existence of God and His revealed message to His chosen messengers. While they acknowledge the divine origin of the Old and New Testaments, they are not willing to grant the Qur'an the same status. Suffice it to say that their argument is not religious, historical, or academic. It can best be described as biased and fabricated.


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  3. Sajdah

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    Did Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) copy the Bible?!


    There is an old ridiculous fallacy, that Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) copied the Bible, a fallacy copied from some ignorant Arab pagans against the Prophet during his lifetime. They were stunningly challenged by the grandeur of the divine revelation. To face the challenge, they strived hard to push away the coming light that was gradually penetrating the Makkan society and radiating outwards to Arab tribes coming to Makkah for trade or pilgrimage, threatening to penetrate the Arab Peninsula and the whole Middle East and world, and engulf their absurd beliefs and challenge their tribal sovereignty to extinction.

    Closing their ears and minds from hearing and accepting the Qur’an, and being also ignorant of the Bible, the nearest forgery to proclaim was that the Qur’an was being borrowed from the Bible or some Biblical source. However, at that time, Christianity was almost totally out of the scene of Makkah. In the Arab Peninsula, Christian presence was confined to three locations: among the tribes of Al-Heerah in the northeast near Iraq, the Roman-occupied kingdom of Bani Ghassan in the northwest, and the Abyssinian reign of Yemen, far away from Makkah. Jewish presence was mainly in enclave settlements in and around Madinah.

    Makkah being devoid of any real source of Biblical information, the pagans of the time could find no better candidate than a non-Arab Roman blacksmith boy earning his living there. They claimed that he was the source of the Qur’an, dictating it to Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) out of his meagre Biblical education! The mockingly fabricated fallacy soon faded away among the pagans themselves. Years later, in the peak of the fierce hostilities of the Jewish tribes of Al-Madinah, and amidst their repeated attempts to defame the Prophet, spread rumors and work out plots to eradicate Islam, no such claim (i.e., that the Qur’an copied the Bible) was ever raised.

    On the contrary, the Jews were keeping their scriptures away from the Muslims, specially those prophesizing and supporting the new message. It is also significant that there was no single Arabic translation of the Bible till the tenth century CE, i.e., three centuries after the Prophet’s death. The available texts of the Bible were either in Syrian, Greek, or Hebrew. If the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) could have any direct access to the Jewish or Christian scriptures, he would have quoted them, being in dire need to challenge his opponents.

    The only other reported encounters of the Prophet with Christian sources were on two occasions. At the early age of twelve, during a trip with his uncle Abu Talib among a trade caravan to Ash-Sham, they casually met Baheerah, a Syrian monk who reportedly could identify in the boy Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) signs of expected prophethood foretold in the old scriptures.

    Similarly, when the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) received the first few verses of the revelation, his worried wife Khadijah brought him to her relative Waraqah ibn Nawfal. Being a Christian convert with some knowledge of the Hebrew scriptures, he assured the Prophet that the revelation he received was genuinely divine. Waraqah passed away shortly thereafter; the revelation continued for 23 years.

    Now let us examine the two texts, the Qur’an and the Bible. The Qur’an was revealed over 23 years in installments to match multitudes of events, issues, and queries, which were finally compiled into surahs, each having a homogeneous flowing narration. On the other hand, the Bible is a collection of 58 (plus 16 disputed) books written by several human authors and groups. These books were originally not intended to be holy scriptures, but were selectively made so by the ecumenical councils of the Church, several centuries after Christ.

    An academic or even casual hand-on examination by an impartial sound intellect could never fail to witness the deep contrast between the superb text and context of the Qur’an, compared to the fallible human texts comprising the Bible books.

    Further, the Qur’an has vehemently unveiled the Christian and Jewish distortions of the original messages of Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them). The original Injeel and Torah are no longer available. Please read, for example, the Qur’anic correction and reply to the Biblical distortions:

    - Abraham was a Jew: 2:140; 3:65
    - Allah tired from act of creation— Allah forbid: 50:38
    - Jesus the son of God— Allah forbid: 9:30; 5:17
    - Trinity: 5:72-73
    - Sanctifying the Church: 3:64
    - Solomon blaspheming: 2:102
    - The first Qiblah: 3:96
    - Forbidden foods: 3:93

    Could a copy (i.e., the Qur’an, according to the allegation) correct the claimed original (i.e., Bible)?

    Knowledge-wise, the Qur’an was proven to refer to and be precisely compatible with facts of science evolving over 14 centuries, a living proof of the authenticity of the Qur’an. This is contrasted to contradictions between the human Bible and science.

    A few examples of these contradictions are: the allegory of the primordial waters, the creation of light before the creation of the stars producing them, the existence of day and night before creation of the earth, and creation of the earth before the sun, that the world was created only 5,766 years ago, and similar historically untenable descriptions and estimation of the time of the Flood................
     
  4. Sajdah

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    Again, could the Qur’an “learn” from the Bible?

    There are, of course, points of agreement between the Qur’an and the Bible, e.g., the main aspects of the stories of prophets. That is natural as far as the original source of information being the same, divine revelation of Allah through His Messengers teaching essentially the same message. But here again, in the stories of the prophets we witness the profound differences between the Qur’anic narrations and those of the Bible. Compare for example: the story of prophet Joseph in the Qur’an (12:4-102) and the Bible (Genesis 37-45). Here, the brief to-the-point yet lively objective Qur’anic narration to emphasize advice and exhortations can be contrasted to the marginal details listed in the lengthy “once-upon-a-time” style of the Bible.

    While the Qur’an gives due respect and reverence to the prophets as Allah’s chosen inviolable human beings, radiating His guidance to their contemporaries and future generations, the Bible frequently portrays them dishonorably. Consider for example:


    Genesis 9:20-24: Noah being drunk and appearing naked in front of his sons
    Exodus 32:3-4: Aaron shaping a golden calf for the Israelites to worship
    1 Kings 11:9-10: Solomon worshiping false gods
    2 Samuel 11:4-5: David committing adultery
    Genesis 19:31-36: Lot committing incest with his two daughters



    Once again, Did Prophet Muhammad copy the Bible?


    This accusation is untenable for some reasons:

    1. There was no Arabic translation of the Bible available during the Prophet’s time.

    Ernst Würthwein informs us in his book, The Text Of The Old Testament:

    “With the victory of Islam the use of Arabic spread widely and for Jews and Christians in the conquered lands it became the language of daily life. This gave rise to the need of Arabic versions of the Bible, which need was met by a number of versions mainly independent and concerned primarily for interpretation.” (Ernst Würthwein, The Text Of The Old Testament (Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1988, pp. 104.)

    Thus, the first translations of the Hebrew Bible in Arabic appeared after the advent of Islam. In fact, the oldest dated manuscript of the Old Testament in Arabic dates from the first half of the ninth century.

    What about the New Testament?

    Sidney H Griffith, who has done extensive research on the appearance of Arabic and the New Testament says:

    “The oldest dated manuscript containing the Gospels in Arabic is Sinai Arabic MS 72. Here the text of the four canonical Gospels is marked off according to the lessons of the temporal cycle of the Greek liturgical calendar of the Jerusalem Church. A colophon informs us that the MS was written by Stephen of Ramleh in the year 284 of the Arabs, i.e., 897 AD.” (Sidney H Griffith, The Gospel in Arabic: An Enquiry into Its Appearance in the First Abbasid Century, Oriens Christianus, Volume 69, p. 131-132.)


    2. It is well-known that the Prophet did not know how to read or write: he was illiterate. So there was no question of his plagiarizing the Bible, even if an Arabic copy did in fact exist in his time. What then of the charge that he was taught by some Christians?

    Allah the Almighty answered the criticism fourteen centuries ago in these verses, which say what means:



    *{Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled. Nor does he say [aught] of [his own] desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by One Mighty in power.}* (An-Najm 53:2–5)


    To deny the divine origin of the Qur’an missionaries claim that Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) knew all the sources—Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Hanif and ancient Arab beliefs—before he compiled the Qur’an. However, this ignores the simple fact of his illiteracy that was even acknowledged by the enemies of Islam 1400 years ago. Allah the Almighty also answered this in the Qur’an, when it says what means:


    *{And thou wast not [able] to recite a Book before this [Book came] nor art thou [able] to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed would the talkers of vanities have doubted. Nay here are signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our signs.}* (Al-`Ankabut 29:48–49)


    Despite all this, the missionaries have been repeating the same arguments, hoping to mislead the gullible. It was common knowledge in Makkah that the Prophet was illiterate, and there is no record of the pagan Arabs in Makkah accusing Muhammad (peace be upon him) of not being illiterate.

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  5. Shamuwn

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    They're certain verse that were copy from the bible that are in the Qur'aan . Doesn't the Qur'aan tell us as Muslims to read the scriptures before the Qur'aan ? What'a the big deal . How would we as Muslims Overstand other people faith / belief's religion if we don't read their scriptures ? One of the bigest mistake christian make not reading the Qur'aan , But relying on their teacher / minister / media to tell them what the qur'aan is saying .


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  6. Sajdah

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    There are some points of agreement between the Qur'an and the Bible...But there is no copy from the Bible (That has been changed) in the Qur'an.....Please reread post #3 and post #4...

    It is encouraged to read about other beliefs, and to learn about others....

    Insha'Allah :)
     
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    With all do respect I didn't say anything about the Qur'aan being change . If you wish I can post what I'm talking about . When I have so time !

    Araaka Fiy Maa Ba'd In Shaa - A - Allah :)
     
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    No , it doesn't .
     
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    Wa alaikum assalam :)

    I think there is a little misunderstanding here....I was referring to the Bible not the holy Qur'an.....

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    Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( The Prophet / Apostle Muhammad 3 ; 84 In Part Revealed 625 - 627 A.D.
    Say ( Muhammad ; We ( me and my true followers ) have faith in Allah and what was sent down ( Al Qur'aan ) To Us , ( And what was sent down to Abraham and Ishmael ( Abraham was given 10 Pages Of Suhuf ) And Isaac and Jacob and the tribes ( Israelites and Ishmaelites ) ; And what was given to Moses ( The Torah ) . And Jesus ( The Evangel Revelation ) And the newsbearers from their Sustainer ) .


    Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( The Prophet / Apostle Muhammad 2 ; 91 In Part Revealed 624 - 626 A.D.
    .. And they conceal what they know to be true ( Al Qur'aan ) with what is behind it while it is the indisputable fact , Confirming what is already with them .


    Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( The Prophet / Apostle Muhammad 2 ; 89 In Part Revealed 624 - 626 A.D.
    And when the Scripture ( Al Qur'aan ) had come to them from Allah , Confirming ( Musaddiq ) what was already with then ( As Suhuf , Al Hikmah , At Tawraah , Az Zabuwr . Kitaabu Barnaabaa , Al Injil .

    Al Qur'aan ( The Koran ) 114 Books Of Ahmad ( The Prophet / Apostle Muhammad 2 ; 4 In Part Revealed 624 - 626 A.D.
    '' And be faithful and loyal to what I ( Allah ) sent down ( Al Quraan ) . It is the truth . Confirming what is already with you ( As Suhuf , Al Hikmah , At Tawraah , Az Zabuwr . Kitaabu ) Barnaabaa , Al Injil ) .


    The reason that the Qur'aan behings with the statement '' Iqraa '' To Read '' is because it is the foundation of any true Muslims faith and knowledge and is based on the ability to read the Scriptures . Then Al Qur'aan 43 ; 4 , clearly specifies that it is not talking about one particular Scripture , but in actuality , it is talking about all of the Scriptures ;


    . The Suhuf - Arabic - [ 100 ] The Pages ) .. a . 10 page called '' The Book of Life - Arabic - Kitaabul Hayaah ) , received by the Prophet Adam ( 4026 - 3096 B.C.E. ) in East of Eden in the year 3126 B.C.E.

    b . 50 pages called The Book of Sin - Arabic , Kitaabul Ithm ) , received by the Prophet / Apostle Seth ( 3896 - 2984 B.C.E. ) in East of Eden ( Mecca ) in the year 3776 B.C.E.

    c . 30 pages called The Book of Time - Arabic - Kitaabul Saa'ah ) received by the Prophet / Apostle Enoch ( 3404 - 3039 B.C.E. ) in East of Eden ( Mecca ) in the year ( 3284 B,C.E. )

    d . 10 pages called The Book of Generation - Arabic - Kitaabul Milaad ) , received by the Prophet / Apostle Abraham ( 2078 - 1903 B.C.E. ) in the land of Canaan in the year 1958 B.C.E.

    2 . Al Hikmah - Arabic - The Wisdom
    19 books received by the Prophet Luqmaan [ Leummim ] ( 1791 - 1671 B.C.E. ) in the Sinai Desert , in the year 1671 B.C.E.

    3 . At Tawraah - Arabic - The Torah ) also called the Pentateuch ] 5 book received by the Prophet / Apostle Moses ( 1593 - 1473 B.C.E. ) and his brother , the Prophet Aaron ( 1596 - 1473 B.C.E. between the years ( 1512 - 1473 B.C.E. )

    a ) Genesis - Arabic - At Takwin ) Which means '' Origin '' was given to the Prophet / Apostle Moses in Syraic ( Ancient ) Arabic at the age of 80 in the wilderness , In 1512 B.C.E. This book contains the account of man's creation , the great flood of the Prophet / Apostle Noah's ( 2970 - 2020 B.C.E. ) , son of Lamech , time and a large record of early history of the Prophet Adam ( 4026 - 3096 B.C.E. ) down to Joseph ( 1818 - 1708 B.C.E . ) the son of Jacob ( 1918 - 1771 B.C.E. ) .

    b ) The Book of Exodus - Arabic , Al Khuruw , Which means '' Going Forth '' . The Prophet / Apostle Moses received the book in Syriac ( Ancient ) Arabic and Hebrew in the wilderness in 1512 B.C.E. This book entails recordings of the history of the Children of Israel and their journey to the land Canaan under the leadership of The Prophet / Apostle Moses .

    c ) The Book of Leviticus - Arabic Al Lawin , Which means '' The Law '' . The Prophet / Apostle Moses received the book in Syriac ( Ancient ) Arabic while in the in the wilderness in 1512 B.C.E. The book entails the laws concerning morals , cleanliness , dietary habits , etc .

    d ) The Book of Numbers - Arabic - Al Adad , Which mean '' Counting the People '' . The revelation was received by The Prophet / Apostle Moses in 1512 B.C.E. The book entails the laws concerning morals , cleanliness , dietary habits , etc

    e ) The Book Deuteronomy - Arabic Al Tathniyah , Literally means '' The Repetition of the Law '' This book was given to The Prophet / Apostle Moses in Syriac Arabic in the Plains of Moab during 1473 B.C.E. . This books contains accounts of the end of The Prophet / Apostle Moses' days with the Rebellious Israelites and the beginning of their destruction . The last two chapters of Deuteronomy was received by his brother , the Prophet Aaron ( 1596 - 1473 B.C.E. ) .

    4 . Az Zabuwr -- Arabic -- The Psalms ) 150 books of which 73 were reveived in 1037 B.C.E. by Prophet David ( 1107 - 1007 B.C.E. ) in the valley of Elah , in the land of Judah . Two books were received by the Prophet Solomon , twelve to the sons of Korah , twelve to Asaph , one Herman , on to Ethan , and one to the The Prophet / Apostle Moses'which was kept in Ethiopia . The Egyprian Prophet Ankh Aton ( 1376 - 1340 B.C.E. ) also possessed a Psalms received in Hemito Semetica language .

    5 . Kitaabu Barnaabaa - Arabic - The Book Of Barnabas ) 222 books received in 54 A.D. by the Prophet Barnabas [ Joses son of Joseph , ( 19 B,C, - 62 A,D, ) . This book was first kept in Jordan and then moved to Rome .

    6 . Al Injil - Arabic - Evangel Revelation ) by the The Prophet / Apostle Jesus . And recoeded by this Prohet John ( 2 B.C. - 99 A.D. , son of Zebedee on the Island of Patmos .

    7 . Al Qur'aan - Arabic - The Koran ) 114 book received between the years of 610 - 632 A.D. in Mecca and Medina by the The Prophet / Apostle Mustafa Muhammad Al Amin ( 570 - 632 )





     
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    I'm at work I have to get back with you to show you want I'm talking about .


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    The Prophet Adam ( 4026 - 3096 B.C.E. ) The Book Of Life Revealed 3125 B.C.E. / The Prophet / Apostle Seth ( 3896 - 2984 B.C.E ) The Book Of Sin Revealed 3776 B.C.E. / The Prophet / Apostle Enoch ( 3404 - 3039 B.C.E. The Book Of Time Revealed 3284 B.C.E. / The Prophet / Apostle Abraham ( 2078 - 1903 B.C.E. The Book Of Generation Revealed 1958 B.C.E.
    / The Prophet Luqmaan ( 1791 - 1671 B.C.E. ) The Book Of Wisdom Revealed 1671 B,C,E, / The Prophet / Apostle Moses ( 1593 - 1473 B.C.E. The Torah Revealed between 1512 - 1473 B.C.E. /
    The Prophet Aaron ( 1596 - 1473 B.C.E. Chapter 33 - 34 of Deuteronmy Revealed 1473 B.C.E. /
    The Prophet David ( 1107 - 1007 B.C.E . The Psalms Revealed 1037 B.C.E. / The Prophet Barnabas ( 19 B.C. - 62 A.D. ) The Gospel of Barnabas Revealed 54 A.D. / The Prophet / Messiah Jesus -- Al Injil ( Evangel , Revelation 22 Chapters , Revealed 96 A.D. / The Prophet John ( 2 B.C. - 99 A.D. ) The Gospel Of John Revealed 98 A.D. / The Prophet / Apostle Muhammad ( 570 - 632 A.D. ) The Qur'aan Revealed 610 - 632 A.D. < Peace And Blessings Be Upon Them All >
     
  13. Sajdah

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    The Qur'an is the word of God.

    Let us examine the Qur’an more closely. Starting with the content, could the knowledge therein have been within the reach of any human source, i.e., the Prophet Muhammad, his contemporaries, or the whole human civilization and for several centuries ahead? How could a book revealed at that point of history refer —in precise terms—to scientific phenomena and historical events—prior and subsequent—that were unknown or misunderstood before their subsequent verification?

    These Qur’anic references cover such wide spectrum of topics as the nature of space, relativity of time, the shape and motion of the earth, the role of mountains, water for life, the water cycle, the sources of rivers and groundwater, sea depths, embryology, hygiene and proper health practices, prophecies fulfilled (after revelation), etc.

    As to the form of the Qur’an—i.e., linguistic and literary features—any strict comparative analysis identifies the Qur’an to be not only superior to any other text—preceding or following, including the sayings of the Prophet himself, who received and delivered the revelation—but also to be a perfect, flawless and the most eloquent composition. This perfection can be witnessed and proved on the levels of the individual words (semantics), sentence (grammar and rhetoric), and whole surahs (chapters).

    Thorough examination of the Qur’an shows that each of these elements was selected and phrased in the most appropriate manner to fulfill the most precise meaning and most effective impact, whether cognitive, psychological, passionate, or phonic, on the reader or listener. The Qur’an challenges mankind, Arabs and non-Arabs, to the end of time, to produce anything like or compared to itself.


    The Qur’an is unique in consistency, harmony, intelligence and rationality:

    The Qur’an is the book without inconsistencies; one part of its text, (or doctrine) does not clash with the other. In fact, it sets the absence of contradiction, irrationality, and incoherence, as one of the criteria for checking the authenticity of any divine revelation. It states "Do they not ponder the Qur’an (with care)? Had this book been from anybody but Allah, you would have found much inconsistencies.” (Surat An-Nisa:82).

    Because contradictions and inconsistencies call for the negation of one part, which is in conflict with the other and this automatically invalidates portions of the book. In turn that makes it difficult for a man to remain true to any one value, thereby creating mental conflict, emotional and spiritual instability. "Skip some, follow some," “pick and choose" and "no absolutes" become the pattern. And these exercise an extremely damaging influence upon a truth-conscious, rational man with regard to belief in Allah and with regard to the credibility of the book itself. And it leads to dilemmas where sincere minds become "disjointed" and "disenchanted," eventually steering them away from the book or turn them into hypocrites.

    Dr. Maurice Bucaille, who had absolutely no reason to favor one book, especially that of Islam, over the others (if anything, as human nature is, he would only favor the books of his own religion, but not the Qur’an) attests to the Qura’nic claim in his book. "The Quran ... is not only free from contradictions in its narrations, the sign of various human manipulations to be found in the Gospels, but provides a quality of its own for those who examine it objectively and in the light of science i.e. its complete agreement with modern scientific data.”

    The Book may be great but what is its impact on the people, you might ask. If no impact it has any significance. How true! The Qur’an is unique in terms of its Blitzing Impact, also.

    There have been many other religious books and revelations before the Qur’an. But of these, only the Holy Qur’an had the most electrifying impact upon the people. Its lightning-like rapidity, in a short few decades, reached the hearts and minds of the masses of several continents, transforming the lives of idolaters, alcoholics, exploiters, abusers, perverts, into men and women of pristine monotheism, of highest virtue and piety. Call it what you may - the most sensational spiritual revolution, or the spiritual blitzkrieg, the revolution of which the mankind had never witnessed before. To this very day, no other religion comes even close to matching Qur’an's record of the spectacular impact on lives of masses.”


    Islamonline.net,
    Reading Islam.com
     
  14. Shamuwn

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    With All Do Respect This is < Not Truth > Because The Challenge has been met

    Thorough examination of the Qur&#8217;an shows that each of these elements was selected and phrased in the most appropriate manner to fulfill the most precise meaning and most effective impact, whether cognitive, psychological, passionate, or phonic, on the reader or listener. [ The Qur&#8217;an challenges mankind, Arabs and non-Arabs, to the end of time, to produce anything like or compared to itself. ]
     
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    Any reader of The Qur'aan that is familiar with The Old Testament , Or The New Testament , Discovers that the names and events of The Books and Prophet have been definitely Copied in The Qur'aan . This post will prove to you that Muslims took the bulk of their religion , And their language from the So-called Jew or Christians or other cultures that Predated them , Yet some will Argue with you and try to convince you that Islaam its Scrptures , The Qur'aan is authentic . When in fact , I can give you serveral Words and Customs that was taken from The Socalled Jews . For example , The ceremony of The Cirumcision ( Genesis 17 ; 10 ) Was taken from The So-called , The concept of a holy day called Sabbath ( Genesis 2 ; 2 - 3 ) Was taken from The So-called Jews , And called Jum'ah - arabic - ( Qur'aan Chapter 62 ) By the Muslims .

    The concept of a Turbaan or Prayer Cap , Which The Muslims call a Kiffa , Came from The So-called Jews / Jewish Yamaka or Yarmulke , The concept of the Muslims Kalimat Tawhiyd ( Qur'aan 47 ; 19 ) Was taken from The So-called Jews Shama Yishrael - aramic - '' Hear Og Israel '' ( Dueteronomy 6 ; 4 , Or Dueteronomy4 ; 35 , Where they took their Kalimat , Laa Ilaaha Illa Allah - arabic - ( Qur'aan 47 ; 19 ) And this was carried over to Christianity ( Mark 12 ; 29 ) . And that's where Muslims borrowed it from . They took the concept of Fasting from The So-called Jews ( Nehemiah 9 ; 1 ) , The concept of Alms giving ( Qur'aan 4 ; 162 ) , Their concept of making Hajj ( Ezra 3 ; 4 , 6 ; 22 ) .

    What most Muslims don't even know is that their whole concept of The Pilgrimage to their ( Ka'aba ) in Mecca ,Which they call The Hajj , And the person who complets The Pilgrimage is call a Hajji , Is a word duplicated from the name of Prohet Haggai and The festive Khag OrHag - aramic - ( Exodus 12 ; 14 ) . This is when the children of Israel in the book of Ezra make a Pilgimage out of Babylonian captivity , To return to the holy land back to the Temple of Solomon , The Holy of Holies , The most sacred building on earth to them .

    It's the exact same story , Even the same titles ; They took the concept of wearing The Ihraam from The So-called Jews , Who took it from The Ancient Ehyptian practice of Priests of Amun-Ra . The concept of the story of Nimord ( Qur'aan 2 ; 259 ) Was copied from The So-called Jews / Jewish Narrative of the Mishnah from The Midrash Rabba , Chapter 17 .

    The concept of wearing the face veil , Khimaar - arabic ( Genesis 24 ; 65 ) And wearing sweet smelling oils Qituwrah - arabic - Meaning '' Sweet Fragrance '' From Qehtoret - aramic - And burning incense ( Exodus 30 ; 7 , 23 , 34 ) . And they also took words like Sawkar meaning '' Strong Drink '' From the Hebrews , And changed it to Sakhraan meaning '' Drunk '' The House '' Bayt of Lord ( Qur'aan 106 ; 3 ) . Take from the Hebrew Beth , The word Rabb , - arabic - meanig '' Master Or Sustainer '' From Rabb .

    The word Jannah - arabic - From The Aramic / Hebrew Gan , Th word Sama'a or Samaawaati - arabic - From The Aramic / Hebrew '' Shamayim - aramic - meaning '' The Skies , '' The word Ard - arabic - Take from The Aramic / Hebrew Ehrets - aramic - Meaning '' The Earth Land , '' Baab - arabic - , from the Aramic / Hebrew Bawb , meaning '' Door '' , Aba - arabic From The Aramic / Hebrew word Ab , '' Meaning Father , '' Malak , - arabic - from The Aramic / Hebrew Melek , Meaning '' King Or Ruler '' , Yad from The Aramic / Hebrew word 'Yawd , Meaninf '' Hand , '' Amiyn - arabic , Amen , '' Mu'minun - arabic - Mu'minaati - arabic - El Mu'min - arabic - Etc , One of Allahs attributes ( 6th ) Was take from The Aramic / Hebrew '' Awmane , Meaning '' To Have Faith , '' El Bariyu - arabic - ,

    The 12th Attribute , Meaning '' The Fasioner '' from The Aramic / Hebrew '' Bara , '' Meaning '' To Replenish '' Al Musawwiru - arabic - The Fashioner , from The Aramic / Hebrew Tsawr , Meaning '' To Make '' Al of the attributes of Arabic was Taken from Hebrew ; Including Salaam - arabic - Islaam - arabic - Muslim - arabic - All came from The Aramic / Hebrew Word Shalom - Meaning '' Peace ''
     
  16. Sajdah

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    Really!! So who met it, where and when exactly?!

    Look, because you are new to the forum, I want to tell you that it is against the forum rules to debate in Islam DIR....So please refrain from posting such claims here, and read the posts carefully, you will find the refutation of such distortions.
     
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    So let me just follow your logic here. Your argument is that we know the quran is the book of God because the guy who wrote it says that he's God's prophet, and he's the one who wrote it, so he should know?

    Let me ask you a question that may stump a Muslim such as yourself. Do you see any little tiny flaw in this logic? Any at all?
     
  18. Sajdah

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    The part of the article you quoted aimed to prove that the Qur'an that we have today, is the same book which was revealed to prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him...Not like any other book of other religions....Besides prophet Muhammad is the only human being that has a detailed biography, so we know everything about his life before the revelation and after it...That makes the book has much credibility for those who are interested in the truth.

    Allah (SWT) says in the holy Qur'an:
    [15:9]" Verily We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'ân) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)."

    This verse and the facts that the Qur'an is not corrupted proves the authenticity of the Qur'an.....

    Any respected questions about Islam are welcomed!
     
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    Proving once again that all theist arguments are either circular, special pleading, or both.

    Your point is that the quran was written during the lifetime of the person purporting to have recieved its prophecy? That's it? That's your idea of evidence? That's funny.

    btw what do you do with Joseph Smith?
     
  20. Shamuwn

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    If you speaking about Post # 15 , That answer to your question , When I said part of the Qur'aan came / copy from The Bible and you said it didn't . Now if your speaking of your post where that Authors / Link seems as if he Challengeing some one to bring the linkness of the Qur'aan , Now to my overstanding the original Qur'aan has be burn . So the original Qur'aan nolonger exist . I'm not going to get into the many diffrent Translation / copys and many differnt Authors of The Qur'aan . The title of your post is < Fact About Islam > Yes . So my question are we dealing with '' Belie'f's or Fact's here . If we're dealing with '' Facts '' here you made it a debate not me .

    Now before anyone here get want I'm saying '' Twisted '' I'm not trying to disrespect Islam . When one make a statement / question , You can always Agree or Disagree .
    Sajdah <> Remember you open the door for the type of Answer you get , When you make statement ask question . Now if you want me to answer your Challenge I can or we can leave it alone .

    Araaka Fiy Maa Ba'd In Shaa A Allah
     
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