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Fact or Fiction The Earth Rotates around the sun?
- Thread starter Flat Earth Kyle
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Flat Earth Kyle
Well-Known Member
I don't know what I think about this, I just wanted to hear some other opinions on it.
MatthiasGould
Alhamdulillah!
As an astronomer, I facepalmed.
maxfreakout
Active Member
There is no absolute truth about this, it depends on whether you hold the sun as a fixed point, or the earth as a fixed point.
Levite
Higher and Higher
I really don't understand- this is grade school science. And not even higher grades-- like first or second grade science. Really? I mean...really? This must be trolling. It must be. Nobody could possibly be this obtuse, it would violate some sort of law of thermodynamics or something.
chinu
chinu
Generally boys use to revolve around the girls, But.. am not sure this is true in this case too
Alceste
Vagabond
I get what you're saying, but it really doesn't. Neither are fixed points. The universe is expanding, so the sun is moving. In the meantime, all the planets orbit around it in a fashion that is both elegant, simple enough that a child can grasp it immediately, and completely consistent with the laws of physics.
That is extremely sad.
Maybe I am just slow, but I dont understand what this video is trying to say. He seems to try and draw parallels between the movement of the planets, atoms, hurricanes, someones hair... I dont get it
.Whoever made this video doesnt appear to have a very good understanding of astronomy and physics.
I suppose that one could posit some new laws of physics & construct an elaborate mathematical model
(typical of those wacky Russkies) which fits this explanation, but I suspect that it wouldn't be very useful
because of complexity & lack of predictive value. I hereby invoke Occam's Razor to dump it.
The video probably gets more serious interest than it deserves because of its ponderous sound track.
Watch it again, but this time imagine this more appropriate music instead......
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Pee-Wee's Playhouse : Intro [HD] - YouTube
Lets see. The sun? Check. The galactic core? Check. Something more? Probably. Now, imagine the in the video that is supposed to show planetary movements. They rotate around the thing, which rotates around the center of the Earth, which rotates around the sun, which rotates around the galactic core... safe to say, my head is spinning. Literally. So is everyone elses. We just dont notice itWhy not ask the earth ? that around whom do she rotates, and for what ?
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Fiction.
It rotates around its axis. It revolves around the Sun.
Of course, as has been pointed out, motion is relative and what you denote a fixed point is arbitrary. If you declare the Earth a fixed point then the Solar System revolves around it.
It rotates around its axis. It revolves around the Sun.
Of course, as has been pointed out, motion is relative and what you denote a fixed point is arbitrary. If you declare the Earth a fixed point then the Solar System revolves around it.
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maxfreakout
Active Member
These 2 statements contradict each other, if you say the planets orbit around the sun, then this implies that the sun is a fixed point, relative to the planets.
It is not absolutely true that the earth orbits the sun, it is only true from within the frame of reference which holds the sun as a fixed point (heliocentrism). In infinite space, there are no fixed points, therefore the earth does not orbit the sun.
You could just as easily define a frame of reference (geocentrism) in which the earth is fixed, and every other objects in the solar system moves relative to the fixed earth in the centre. But wherever you decide to put the fixed point, the absolute truth is that there aren't any fixed points in infinite space
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It seems a reasonable assumption, but "absolute truth"?
Have you a proof for this assertion.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
maxfreakout
Active Member
Proof for what assertion exactly? What I am saying follows logically from the fact that it is impossible to absolutely fix a point in infinite space. Wherever you put the fixed point is arbitrary. Imagine infinite space which contains just one spherical object, that object has no definitive position, size or motion.
maxfreakout
Active Member
Please explain how this relates to what I said
I don't argue against your view. I just wonder what justification there is for elevating it to "absolute truth".