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Fact check: Trump Made At Least 20 False Claims In Angry Cabinet Monologue

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Skwim, Oct 22, 2019.

  1. Skwim

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    AND THIS IS THE MAN SOME PEOPLE WANT TO LEAD THE COUNTRY


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    Updated 10:30 PM ET, Mon October 21, 2019

    (CNN)President Donald Trump delivered a blistering and rambling monologue to the journalists he allowed into his Cabinet meeting for more than 70 minutes on Monday. His press secretary, Stephanie Grisham, later tweeted, "I hope we see honest reporting from today's mtg."
    We can honestly tell you that Trump's remarks were highly dishonest.
    We're still looking into some of the President's claims. We can report that at least 20 of them were false:​

    An amusing few


    Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un

    "But in the meantime, North Korea, I like Kim, he likes me. We get along. I respect him, he respects me. 'You could end up in a war.' President Obama told me that. He said, 'The biggest problem, I don't know how to solve it.' He told me he doesn't know how to solve it. I said, 'Did you ever call him?' 'No.' Actually, he tried 11 times. But the man on the other side, the gentleman on the other side, did not take his call. OK? Lack of respect. But he takes my call,'" Trump said.

    Facts First: There is no apparent basis for the claim that Obama tried to call Kim Jong Un 11 times.
    "This is a total fabrication. Trump is completely delusional, and it's scary," Susan Rice, who served as Obama's national security adviser, said on Twitter in response to our tweet of Trump's quote.
    "We never called Kim," Ben Rhodes, who served as Obama's deputy national security adviser, told CNN.
    Trump has previously claimed that Obama begged Kim for a meeting, another assertion for which there is no evidence.


    The Emoluments Clause

    Trump attacked critics who said that holding a G7 summit at one of his resorts would violate the Constitution. He said: "You people with this phony Emoluments Clause."

    Facts First: There's nothing phony about the Constitution's prohibitions against the President receiving payments from foreign and domestic governments.
    The clause on foreign emoluments, found in Article I, Section 9, says that "no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state."
    The clause on domestic emoluments, found in Article II, Section 1, says: "The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them."
    Trump might have been attempting to argue that it is phony to apply the clause to his own activities, but, at very least, his wording left an inaccurate impression.


    Who is paying the tariffs on China

    Trump said the US is "taking in billions and billions of dollars in tariffs from China, and they're eating the tariffs."

    Facts First: Americans make the actual tariff payments, and a bevy of economic studies has found that Americans are bearing the overwhelming majority of the tariff costs.


    Rally crowds

    "I haven't had an empty seat at a rally," Trump said.

    Facts First: There have been empty seats at various Trump rallies, including a rally earlier this month in Minneapolis, a July rally in Greenville, North Carolina, an October 2018 rally in Houston and an April 2017 rally in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, according to journalists on the scene.


    The whistleblower and Adam Schiff
    Schiff's comments
    Trump said of the comments Schiff made about the Zelensky call at a committee hearing: "So he made up a lie, and I released -- they never thought that I'd do this -- I released a transcription done by stenographers of the exact conversation I had. And now the game was up."

    Facts First: Schiff made his comments about Trump's call after the President released the rough transcript, not before. The White House issued the document on September 25. Schiff spoke at a House Intelligence Committee hearing on September 26.


    The Ukraine scandal
    The call document
    Trump said, "... I released a transcription then by stenographers of the exact conversation I had."

    Facts First: The document released by the White House explicitly says, on the first page, that it is not an exact transcript of the call.
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  2. Shadow Wolf

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    Fact check: There's already a thread mentioning this exact same thing.
     
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  3. Subduction Zone

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    Sure go ahead and quote significant lies from the article that I only linked:D

    Don't you hate it when someone does a better job? There were so many that I did not know where to start.
     
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  4. lewisnotmiller

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    Sometimes I wanna drop into the heads of some folk who give him a free pass on all this, just to see what they're thinking. But mostly I get worried I'd get sucked into a vortex from which I would never escape.
     
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  5. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    And yet...he's still the President of the United States...and probably will be after the 2020 election. That must really sting...
     
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    Do you really believe that? You must loathe humanity.
     
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  7. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    Trump is a high energy person. And when a high energy person speaks, he speaks more words, and the more words spoken, means more mistakes will be made -that's a scientific FACT, because those who never speak, will hardly ever make mistakes.

    ...The more you do, the more chance opportunities come to exist for mistakes. Therefore, if you've never done anything in your life, the odds are nothing much will happen to you -it's a safe alternative to living life to it's fullest.
     
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  8. Subduction Zone

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    A more reasonable explanation is that he is a narcissistic idiot.
     
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  9. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli RF stinks now. Really, really bad.

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    Join us Lewis. You would make a fine conservative...

    ...But no, we give him a free pass based on the sheer magnitude of things said. You know, if you never do anything in your life, the odds are you'll hardly ever make mistakes.

    ...But the more you do, the more often you make mistakes. This is just the nature of life.

    And it's unfair when the left ignores this fact, and counts his mistakes outside of mentioning the ratio of words spoken : mistakes. And that's deceitful.
     
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    what has he done? I see him complain quite a bit. Is that what you are talking about?
     
  11. lewisnotmiller

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    Heh.

    Well, I certainly agree with you that the only way to avoid mistakes is to avoid doing anything, which is certainly not helpful.

    But these aren't mistakes of action. Rather he very consistently misrepresents facts. And always has done so.
     
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  12. Father Heathen

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    What "stings" is the amount of supposed adults who lack standards and approach politics with a infantile playground mentality. This isn't sports, dumdum. You're letting this man **** in your mouth, ffs.
     
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  13. tytlyf

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    Wait, the absolute worst candidate beat him by 3 million votes. Do you think the next candidate will do worse? Hillary ain't runnin again
     
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    tytlyf The Mind's Eye

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    Trump snorts Sudafed and other drugs to do what he does. He's high all day long.
    It's one thing to be a high energy person, it's more dangerous when the high energy person is Low IQ.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Oooh...that's going to leave a mark..hahahaha.
     
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  16. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    Oohhh...you've cut me to the quick....hahahaha.
     
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    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    We all have dreams....good luck...hahaha.
     
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    tytlyf The Mind's Eye

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    Well, given the past 3 years and Trump's performance, I'd say you're in bigger trouble. And the fact Hillary isn't running will mean Trump will lose by an even bigger margin.

    The American people didn't support Trump in 2016.
     
  19. BSM1

    BSM1 Who's a good boy?

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    You're right, of course...hahaha. It must really hurt knowing you've been marginalized by Trump, and your opinions and observations are totally irrelevant...
     
  20. fantome profane

    fantome profane Have you read the Whistleblower complaint?
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    Does it? Does it sting? Is that how you feel about this?

    Or are you just enjoying the pain of others?
     
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