Felix Harris
Facts don't care about your feelings. -Ben Shapiro
Basically, I am an atheist right, so I would like for you to explain to me why your god is real and use facts not opinions, please.
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Explain to me why god is real using facts
- Thread starter Felix Harris
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InChrist
Free4ever
Why does an atheist want to know anything about God? Atheists don't believe God(s) exist.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
Because I believe in life. Pacifism is a super virtue the key, is happiness and love the gem, is equanimity the safe.
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dfnj
Well-Known Member
God is just a word. Nobody denies the existence of the word God. God exists in our use of words and language. As long as the human mind can speak, God is real in the sense God exists in our language and culture.
Words are a map of reality. Words are NOT the reality they represent. The word "real" is not real. The word god however has a another meaning different than all words. God represents every possible thought and experience we have had or can ever have as a species. God represents reality and nothingness at the same time. God is a container word for every possible thought. So unlike the word "real", the word god is real because it represents the space beyond our own comprehension. As long as there is something we cannot understand or comprehend, god is real in the meaning of the word real.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Stripping common use definitions, it just means life.
The god you're looking for is made up of opinions, theories, philosophies, experiences, testimonies, perspectives, and so forth.
Then, I always ask, what is your definition of god to where others may comment or state facts for the god you are looking for?
God has many definitions. People generalize god as if every other believer should think of him the same. They do not. So....
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
It's the same with any other topic we don't believe in, not inherently have passion for, or have no cosmic reason to explore the topic. Some theologians are atheists too.
Why wouldn't we?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
The only facts we can obtain about God come through Messengers of God... I guess you would not call them facts though, but rather beliefs, since they cannot be verified.
If you want to believe in God, I suggest you check out the latest Messenger so God. He is a Representative of God and has all the latest info on God.....
Who is the latest messenger?The only facts we can obtain about God come through Messengers of God... I guess you would not call them facts though, but rather beliefs, since they cannot be verified.
If you want to believe in God, I suggest you check out the latest Messenger so God. He is a Representative of God and has all the latest info on God.....
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Oh you're a member of the Baha'i faith... why do you think it's true and what qualifies the guy you mentioned as a messenger of God?
Firemorphic
Activist Membrane
I have a counter-challenge. Prove to me by facts that you are self-aware. And to extend the challenge a bit, prove that your words and deeds are necessarily a consequence of your self-awareness and provably different than an AI programs theoretical capabilities.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There are many reasons I believe it is true but the main reason is because it makes logical sense... The primary underpinning of the Baha'i Faith is that there is one God and all religions come from the same God and they are each revealed by a Messenger in every age of history. That is called Progressive Revelation. All the major religions were *right* for their time in history but as time goes on humanity and the world he lives in changes so we need a new religion, one that is suited to the times.
I was not raised in any religion, my parents were raised Christian but they dropped out long before their children were born, so I never had any exposure to religion and I did not believe in God before I stumbled upon the Baha'i Faith during my first year of college. I almost immediately knew it was the truth because of the teachings made so much sense to me. Also, I was caught up in the spirit because it is such a beautiful religion.
What qualifies Baha'u'llah as a Messenger of God is that He got a messages from God.
Except for mine and the vast majority of all religions in human history.
lukethethird
unknown member
Fact: God is real, you're welcome.
Don't all religions contradict one another? Why would God give His messengers contradictory messages?
What message did He send from the three Abrahamic religions?
How do you know He got a message from God? How do you know He wasn't lying or deluded?
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When people go see a doctor with a fever, the doc might prescribe antibiotics to one with a bacterial infection, put another in the hospital for a super high fever and tell a third to take aspirin and tough it out for a cold.
The essential message is always the same. But the details differ due the needs and development of people in various epochs of history.
There are a number of places that discuss these essential messages. Three such places are:
https://lifehacker.com/seven-important-lessons-from-world-religions-everyone-s-1613615832
15 Great Principles Shared By All Religions
http://theharmonyinstitute.org/ten/ten.pdf
Except for mine and the vast majority of all religions in human history.
I see that Baha'u'llah has showed how all True Faith is from God and that all else is made by man.
Regards Tony