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Featured Exodus was not in Egypt

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Magus, Sep 22, 2017.

  1. Magus

    Magus Active Member

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    Sedan derives from Latin 'sedere and the wood of Lebanon is called Cedar and thus 'Chair made of Cedar '

    Sng 3:9 - King Solomon made himself a Chair of the cedar of Lebanon.
     
  2. Jean Valjean

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    I tried to find trade routes to the east through Copenhagen. In Copenhagen I found Myrrha, some flying carpets (that didn't work), Handicraft and Black Roses. I was trying to reach far east, got on wrong plane, and ended up in a kibbutz or it's african equivalence somewhere in southern Egypt (close to abydos)...
     
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  3. Enoch07

    Enoch07 It's all a sick freaking joke.
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    Thats because the King of Tyre and the serpent in Eden are the same. The very one that convinced Adam and Eve to partake of the tree of knowledge. He had fallen way before Eden though. :D
     
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    You are right, according to church fathers the King of Tyre is the king of Babylon, spoken by Isaiah. In this context and in this school, the hebrew word satan means slanderer or accuser and is in connotion with the archangel in Ezekiel and Isaiah. Lucifer is mentioned in Isaiah 14 and is according to chruch fathers the same figure as the annotied cherub who rebelled against God that we recall from Ezekiel 28.

    Jews disagree, claiming that Lucifer was Nebuchadnessar. "Nebu" is the hebrew word for prophet, and nessar is the semitic word for servant. many follow the jewish mainstream, but most christian follow the former.
     
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    But i think we all would disagree to the topic. All christian, and jewish bibles would disagree. Exodus was in Egypt. The word Egypt could be rendered as the house of slavery as the seers pointed out.,
     
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    Isaiah 14:1
    (A) A mist shall come down from the heavens, upon the dawning of the day and shall Howl 'Cut down they cedars and weaken the nations

    (Or)
    A mist shall come down from the heavens upon the temple at Dawn, He shall Howl "Cut down they cedars and weaken the nations "

    Maybe to do with Alexander the Great whom seized Tyre in 332 BCE
     
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    Well according to Joshua, Tyre fell at Dawn.

    Joshua 6:15
    And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning (שַׁחַר shachar) of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times

    sa 14:31
    Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina (Coastal City) , art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times

    The word gate is שַׁעַר sha`ar that is synonym with צֹר ' Tyre ' but שַׁעַר sha`ar sounds like שַׁחַר
    Isaiah 14:1 ' O Tyre have fallen ...
     
  8. Jean Valjean

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    So were did exodus take place??? Egypt being the house of slavery???

    Modern slavery take place under the great harlot riding on the beast, mentioned in the book of revelations.

    If we go to Mexican gulf religion such as Rastafarianism, a religion that spread its messege through negro music (raggae), a religion that was formed in Jamaica that adress the messiah or the second coming of the messiah as a Ethopian king - According to Rastafarian prophets, the buffalo soldier was taken from Africa sold to America on merchant ships. Reading American history we always see that black people was sold as slaves to the cornfields. - Giving America the attribute of the house of slavery.
    There lie some disagreements in rasta religion and the Christianity that is taught on western universities. The great harlot is Rome according to western Christianity and the school I refer to, while Rastafarian religion adress the great harlot as Babylon. Some followers see Europé as modern Babylon, and others America.

    Most of us has been taught in modern media, that muslims see America as the great unfaithful. This is not exactly true - the jihadist we remember from taliban regim in Afghanistan, that was quickly addressed as terrorists by western nations, share the same doctrine as the church fathers - the notion that Rome as the great unfaithful. The problem arise when they see Rome being rebuilt on the place we know as the big apple, New York.

    To inform you, Jihad is refering to the spiritual war mentioned in Ephesians.

    These are the freedom fighters of sweden as a cultural exchange. The original music was composed by a Christian alike. Simply, same jihadist you find in sweden, also pointed out as terrorists by American government
     
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    The Persians were the one oppressing the Asiatic Greeks and Phoenicians in the Levant and Egypt as well as making Eunuch slaves out of them, but it was Alexander the Great whom defeated Persia thereby freeing them all . It is that history that is interleaved in the Torah.
     
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    Refering to which chapters?

    As i recall The promise God made to Joshua was that Land of canaan was Israels claim. The same land promised to Abraham!

    I am addressing your initial post.
     
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    Mohsen السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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    You're talking nonsense. Kemet (the Km.t) literally means "from the black soil" !!! Why are you pushing nonsense?
     
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    Mohsen السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

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    Again more nonsense, Alexander destroyed every nation he conquered, yet 2 centuries before him, Cyrus won the hearts of the subjects he conquered in his empire.

    Do you even history?
     
  13. Magus

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    In Asia, Alexander the Great was known as Κύριος της Ασίας
    that is 'Kurios of Asias ' and Κύριος from κῦρος is indistinguishable
    with the name Cyrus 'Kūruš'

    Isaiah 45:1
    Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, Alexander the Great

    Are you also aware that Alexander the Great is Dhul-Qarnayn and an entire
    chapter in the Quran is dedicated to him. ( Surah 18 Verses 83:101 )

    Dhull-Qarnayn means 'Two-horns' because how he was depicted.

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    The horns symbolise his defeat of Tyre with his use of battering rams and
    that is the real reason Jews blow the ram horns.

    Deuteronomy 33:17
    His horns are like the horns of unicorns ( Rams)
    Exodus 34:35 'קָרַן מֹשֶׁה '
    Horned Moses ( Qaran Mosheh )

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  14. Jean Valjean

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    Open the books for me. I listen!!

    I been taught the word "Kyrios" is the greek word for LORD.

    The thread in a book is bound in blood. Wiccans, Soothsayers and Medium form a small red thread in a short story after reading the palm. That would explain the confusion.

    Remember I listen, I want to learn new teachings and doctrines. And while at it i learn biblical hebrew. I have a cheap text book written by John Dobson to catch up with the language. I am a bigginer. So take it easy with me.
     
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    Jacob and his sons dwelt in midjan, in the land of Goshen. The demand from the LORD was that Pharao should let Israels children go and worship and offer sacrifices to Him in the desert.

    OT; Japanese culture and religion teaches that Japan is the promised Land. Even though the difference between these culturs, Japan hold alot in common with Biblical History.
     
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    It was Egypt and prophet and apostles point back to Egypt. I like the Brooklyn Papyri that lists slave names like Menachem, Asher, Issachar... etc... very Hebrew sounding eh?

    There is in fact archeology supporting the Exodus as it stands although there is no shortage of unbelief among archeologists
     
  17. Jean Valjean

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    This is the christians of sweden facing exodus


    We have alot of wise men and preists building up set of rules, and dicipline for the christians in the world. The Harlot riding on the beast beheaded many of christians, and the tune above is dedicated to them...
     
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    It makes sense that Exodus was in Egypt. The gods of Egypt were judged.
    Also Moses life, and the Jewish nation in Egypt portrays aspects of the Messiah
    Jesus goes to Egypt to flee Herod as a baby and comes back 'out of Egypt I called my Son'

    see Exodus Overview

    But really Pharaoh is Pharaoh and unique to Egypt. Am I wrong?
    Pharaoh whore a headpiece with a snake and it fits the snake opponent motif of the Bible
     
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    I think what the robocop is saying is that the exodus could be alot For example Negros fighting for freedom.
     
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    I'm sorry, but Pihahiroth not appearing in the Septuagint is not strong enough evidence for me that it is not an Egyptian word. Even if Hebrew is the only language displaying the roots, it could be a shared word like for instance Toledo, Ohio could be Toledot or Chronicles and yet it is an English word.

    However I am not sure if Hebrew is showing the roots. You have a lot of roots that are spelled differently, and I just don't know enough about roots to change their letters to make a word.
     
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