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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Jimmy, Sep 19, 2021.

  1. blü 2

    blü 2 Well-Known Member
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    You believe, then, that the universe was created by magic?

    How does magic work? How do you apply it to create a universe?
     
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  2. Jimmy

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    Science is great. Love it. It can only go back so far then it’s mere speculation. That’s where spirituality comes in for me and speculates a bit better than science.
    “Oh oh oh it’s magic ya know”
     
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    The three first things which stand out are sin as an intruder crouching by your door, a snake that speaks, and a tree or fruit which gives knowledge. First of all sin does not crouch. It doesn't have power to act without a person. Secondly snakes do not talk. Thirdly trees and fruit do not give knowledge when eaten.

    There are many other details but the above three are strong indicators that Genesis is not describing the creation of a planet. Most likely it is part of the law of Moses and describes the creation of Israel the nation.
     
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  4. blü 2

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    Thanks.

    My own view is that it's within the bounds of possibility that the universe came into being through physical processes, and it's therefore reasonable to continue seeking to identify just what they were and explain how they worked.

    Whereas it seems to me that the alternative you suggest, even were it somehow possible, would explain nothing, nor even seek to.
     
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    The Torah and science are very deep so I would encourage people not to reject them out of hand.
     
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  6. Jimmy

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    It would explain nothing to you but not for me. It’s quite Straightforward so explanation isn’t required
     
  7. Jimmy

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    I wouldnt encourage rejection either. Live and let live
     
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    Religious belief is quite easy as it requires nothing more than to accept the stories. they tend to be simple and lack many details, which through the history of humanity we have benefitted greatly knowing. Religious views answer nothing that helps us survive and thrive. It can provide meaning to some people, but there are other alternatives that are equally meaningful. You using your computer is due to the sciences you reject doing their work despite views like yours. If all people adopted your views how advanced do you think humanity would be today?
     
  9. Jimmy

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    I think you might be going a little overboard here
     
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    By asking you a question? Do you have an answer?
     
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    Evolution is not science. Evolution is a form of scientism. It is a belief of intellectuals and their groupies. There is no real evidence for evolution. There is only confirmation by conjecture. But the kicker is that conjecturing with theory of design can also generate the same conclusions.

    The rhetoric of theistic evolutionist is identical to that of an atheist groupie. So what is the difference? There is none. So listening to atheist about the Divine Workings of the universe is a bit absurd. Your tolerance is admirable, but consider the absence of Adam in the context of the bible. There is no place for evolution in Christianity (refer to Dennis Venema and the conclusion he embraces).
     
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  12. Jimmy

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    No, just your whole post.
    I’m afraid I don’t have an answer.
     
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    Humans learn about theistic human lying when you stand upon a body stone sealed as sciences first God O.

    Earth as instant stone. Said only by a living human looking at it.

    Where all his chemistry Alchemy ideas come from. He also digs up dead bones not discussing the living body might have lived only about thirty years pretends it was kept alive for millions of years as a bag of bones.

    Stone. When an evolving cooling sealed stone erupts you get to stand on lava. Lying lesson theorising over. Because it took a long time for earth to pressure cool seal as a burning mass. To first stop its first self consuming state law it's own God rebelling.

    Sun theisms.

    I got gas burnt brain prickled. I learnt my brother the science theist is a human liar. So did my brother who was told when his father human science self named him Jesus in a life gained by sex his future he would be inhumanely life sacrificed.

    And he was.

    I have end in my name. So my science brother chose me. By naming in science theisms.

    He says I Inherited his God teaching.

    In the beginning only radiation existed. Says men human as just humans protected by gods forms.

    I want its power to resource. Status the beginning cosmic form.

    His answer so I caused our end radiation extra not God owned in any God form came and we will be destroyed.

    Beginning thesis equals end thesis also. Destroyer teaching bible.

    Same answer.

    He says a saviour is stone as a God. An asteroid wandering star stone mass replacement spirit came. Yet it was returning spirit gases not stone.

    Science heated it up as asteroids passed through earths travels in space as instantly owned stone.... owning an over heated gas heavens.

    Set it alight. It came back as Satan and sure taught him a theist lesson.

    Instant stone is God the planet earth.
     
  14. YoursTrue

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    Can you explain in more detail what you mean about the "theory of design"?
     
  15. Dan From Smithville

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    Nonsense. Evolution is an observed fact. The theory of evolution explains what is observed and is science.

    Your post is absurd. You have a great day.
     
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    The only people that make this claim tend to be the ones that do not understand what science is, what scientific evidence is, and what scientism is. Congratulations! You are fractally wrong.

    To make it simpler we should break down your errors and discuss them one at a time. Which one do you want to cover first?
     
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    There is no theory of design. It is meaningless.
     
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    Is there evidence that the earth was formed over billions of years?
     
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    "Billions" is excessive". Tens of millions would be more reasonable.
     
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