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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Jimmy, Sep 19, 2021.

  1. Jimmy

    Jimmy Well-Known Member

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    Ok, creation/destruction of existence, death and like I said, living life is about it for me when it comes to spirituality.
     
  2. Windwalker

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    For me, living life involves being true to our reasoning and rational minds as part of spirituality. If we hide our faces from knowledge because it upsets beliefs we had previously held, that negatively affects our spirituality. We embrace fear instead of Truth, when we deny sound evidence. Speaking from experience here.
     
  3. Firelight

    Firelight The theory of evolution is false
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    I don’t believe in Theory of Evolution or that the earth is billions of years old, either. Some believers accept it because it’s taught in school. But, I know that I didn’t evolve from an ape.

    To commenters: THere’s a lot of bantering On this thread, but I see no evidence presented that supports evolution. Present your evidence when you state so much exists; telling someone their thinking is flawed, doesn’t support your own belief at all.
     
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  4. Jimmy

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    Thanks but my spirituality isn’t negatively affected.
     
  5. Windwalker

    Windwalker Veteran Member
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    You haven't been denying the truth long enough yet. Think of what Jesus said to Saul on the road to Damascus, "It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks". Eventually, you'll experience internal conflict, and with any luck, a bright Light will knock you off your horse. :)
     
  6. Jimmy

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    13 yrs and counting. Mentally sound here. This factual knowledge you speak of only goes back so far in your grand scheme then begins to break down.
     
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    There is No reason in Scripture to think Earth was Not created billions of years ago.
    The word 'day' in Scripture can mean more than a 24-hr. day. For example: Such as Noah's Day.
    We even speak of 'grandfather's day' and we know that we are Not speaking of a 24-hr.day.
    Because of the accuracy of microwaves (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) is a reason for the billions of years dating.
    Even ALL of the six creative days are summed up by the word 'day' at Genesis 2:4
    God's '7th day' was still on going in the first century - Hebrews 4:10-11.

    Many choose to believe what they want whether in harmony with Scripture or not.
    Sure, God could have used some form of evolution but in lower-life forms; Not where humans are concerned.
    Adam (man) was fashioned or formed from the existing dust of the ground as per Genesis 2:7.
    Lifeless man did Not come to life until his God breathed the ' breath of life' into life-less Adam.
     
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    But spiritually balanced, is another matter. While we can build a wall of mental defense against knowledge that is inconvenient to our beliefs, the heart is another matter. Eventually, means just that, however long it take, repressing Truth has a negative effect upon us spiritually. The Truth will not be denied.
     
  9. Jimmy

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    Scripture wasn’t my teacher regarding creation, real life and real time pondering did that.
     
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    My heart is fine thanks. I’m rejecting falsehood not repressing or denying truth. There will be no eventual mental breakdown. You should probably be concerned with yourself and stop telling people of negative consequences of their own personal belief system.
     
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    I would like to take the liberty to reply and mention what spirituality is according to Galatians 5:22-23.
    We are to cultivate the fruitage of God's spirit as listed there and worship with spirit and truth - John 4:23-24.
    Jesus instructed to worship with 'spirit' (James 2:26) and 'truth' (John 17:17) meaning religious truth as Jesus taught.
     
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    Real life and real time (our time ?) does Not have to be a religion forum.
    Real life and real-time pondering can be done without a religion forum.
    Neither to me makes Scripture as Not being a teacher........
     
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    Sure, those are the fruits of a spiritual life, and what spiritual people do. But how do you, using your own words and experiences, describe what spirituality is and means to you personally?
     
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    Thank you for your reply. A spiritual life or lifestyle would be centered on doing God's Will, His purpose.
    Because of applying Bible principles seeing a person's life style change for the better.
    Besides applying Bible standards and principles in one's life, 'spiritual people' to me would mean doing what Jesus instructed to do at Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8.
    Talking with others about God's kingdom government is for all Christians, and Not to be left to someone in a pulpit.
    Can I tell you what I know about God's Kingdom in the hands of Christ Jesus _____________
     
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    Windwalker Veteran Member
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    For myself, I see spirituality more about inner transformation of the heart. Becoming a better person, more loving, more compassionate, less judgemental of others, more understanding of differences of view, etc. Basically more Grace-oriented from the heart, and the mind that follows.
     
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    Interesting, so the only way you can achieve wellbeing is by living in denial of reality.
     
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    The Earth is 4.54±0.02 billion years old. It is the universe that is about 13.4 (or more accurately about 13.8) billion years old.

    The Earth is not in a gravitational field that is intense enough to change time, nor is it moving at a very high speed relative to its own frame of reference. If it were possible for a person to watch the Earth revolving around the Sun for the whole time since its formation, that observer would count about 4540 million revolutions during that period, regardless of their frame of reference.
     
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    Yes, because our imperfect heart is treacherous (Jeremiah 17:9) one needs a inner transformation of the heart.
    The imperfect heart is like having a traitor within us because the heart urges us to do something and after we do it then the hearth gives us all the reasons why we should not have done what we did in the first place.
    To be grace-oriented from the heart, yes, the mind will follow ( and vice versa ?)
    This is a reason I find to pray for the help from God's spirit just as Jesus instructed to do so at Luke 11:13 B
     
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    TOE breaks down at a certain point going back leading to gravest speculations of all kinds. So to say the earth was formed in a nano second isnt any more speculative.
     
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    Nakosis Time Efficient Lollygagger
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    The earth being 4.5 billions years old provides a better explanation of what we've discovered about the earth so far.
    YEC is based more on faith of a specific interpretation of the Bible.
    One can still believe the Bible without accepting one interpretation among the many that are available.
     
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