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Existence of God. Can debate satisfy atheist ?
- Thread starter chinu
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questfortruth
Well-Known Member
The day the vineyard will stop to bring fruit (the theists) the God will return.
chinu
chinu
return where ?
Heyo
Veteran Member
I've heard of atheists who play the lottery or dream of meeting aliens.
I think it's silly to think a person who lacks a belief in God has a hidden agenda where they are secretly hoping beyond hope that a theist can prove God to them.
It's almost as silly as the notion that a believer in God secretly hopes that atheists will someday be able to disprove God's existence. Someone should create such a thread. Oh...wait...
It's almost as silly as the notion that a believer in God secretly hopes that atheists will someday be able to disprove God's existence. Someone should create such a thread. Oh...wait...
chinu
chinu
What do you mean by saying this ?
chinu
chinu
You mean you don't support such silly perceptions ?
Let me be clear when I say I always support silliness.
Heyo
Veteran Member
Some people have "magical thinking" and atheists are not free from that. I wouldn't categorically dismiss the idea that some atheists want there to be a magical sky daddy, even though they don't see a rational possibility.
You don't have to debate with a non-believer to have them accept the existence of God.
No, it's MUCH simpler.
You just show them a real God.
"Do they still hope ..." They? All? A few? A couple?
And let us suppose that some atheist hopes that somebody would come around with sufficient evidence to warrant a belief in deity. What about this would you like to discuss?
chinu
chinu
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Me personally? I rather have an experience not evidence. Also, the god abrahamics think of deity format no. I think mythology when I think of that type of god (and gods). But virtually all religious I come across from many religions say they have a religious experience. As for where that religious experience comes from, I never believed in god so it would be odd for me to have that experience and connect it with god. I'd probably just live it as is without any association and cause.
chinu
chinu
Then a debate is needed to satisfy you that yo're theist, NOT atheist.
chinu
chinu
If they don't hope. Why should I ?
Why do you think I need that debate? I said I'm already satisfied.
Why predetermined, when it is much more likely that religious belief (hence probably a belief in God) comes from such rather than disbelief - given what we know about religious beliefs and how they are passed on. It's probably more likely that they just haven't accepted what others seem to have - that being, the evidence that we all see (but choose to interpret differently) or the veracity and/or provenance of various religious texts, amongst others.
And what is going to change that?
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chinu
chinu
Actually, then I want to know what makes their hope ?
Altfish
Veteran Member
I do not know any atheist that is NOT open to new evidence.
If you (or preferably god) were to convince me that I'm wrong, I'll change my mind. Not saying I'll start worshipping this being though.