Exclusive: Russia Backs Europe’s Far Right

[ChristineM]

Draghi and Macron are cut from the same cloth.

So?

They do not side with the people.

They run their respective countries as they see fit.

I sided with the gilets jaunes, three years ago. I do side with the people.

So you back the damage they did to people, property and the economy? FYI the GJ were just a small band, numbering in the low thousands in all of france. During their protests i actually saw around 9 in all the time they were active.

Macron used violence against the gilets jaunes.

Meet violence with violence has always been a point of french law enforcement. The rioters knew this.

So the Left who claims to side with the people is as credible as a 30 dollar bill.

Ehm, macron is centre right so your $30 bill straw man can be used to wipe your _______ (fill n the blank)

 

[Revoltingest]

I think you're talking about yourself more than you are about me.

The old "I know you are, but what am I" counter, eh.

 

[Estro Felino]

So?



They run their respective countries as they see fit.



So you back the damage they did to people, property and the economy? FYI the GJ were just a small band, numbering in the low thousands in all of france. During their protests i actually saw around 9 in all the time they were active.



Meet violence with violence has always been a point of french law enforcement. The rioters knew this.



Ehm, macron is centre right so your $30 bill straw man can be used to wipe your _______ (fill n the blank)

Okay.
So if the Italian army join the people and together assault the buildings of power...is that unjust?

 

[ChristineM]

Les Français could not care less about Russia.
They just want gas prices to be low.

Unlike Italy, france does not rely on Russian gas/oil. With only 8% of it requirement coming from russia. It has its own oil and gas fields.

Please keep up

 

[ChristineM]

Okay.
So if the Italian army join the people and together assault the buildings of power...is that unjust?

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Stevicus]

The old "I know you are, but what am I" counter, eh.

Sometimes the circumstances warrant such a response.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sometimes the circumstances warrant such a response.

And sometimes they don't.

 

[Stevicus]

And sometimes they don't.

Yes, but it's true in this case. You do idealize capitalism and demonize socialism. You do it all the time.

I, on the other hand, am willing to acknowledge the sins of socialism and the virtues of capitalism when the situation calls for it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, but it's true in this case. You do idealize capitalism and demonize socialism.

This is where you're mistaken.
I've only argued that it works better than socialism.
But regarding the latter, you've always spoken of how
noble it is...people helping each other, more caring, more
kindness, nobility. This despite its heinous record in every
attempt throughout history.
I'm pragmatic.
You're a believer.

 

[Estro Felino]

This is where you're mistaken.
I've only argued that it works better than socialism.
But regarding the latter, you've always spoken of how
noble it is...people helping each other, more caring, more
kindness, nobility. This despite its heinous record in every
attempt throughout history.
I'm pragmatic.
You're a believer.

I guess that if you read the Constitutions of Germany, France, Italy, Spain and others, you will realize they are socialist countries.

 

[Revoltingest]

I guess that if you read the Constitutions of Germany, France, Italy, Spain and others, you will realize they are socialist countries.

So their governments own the means of production,
with no private ownership of industry, farming, etc?
Things must've really changed since I worked for a
German company (Knorr Bremse).

 

[Stevicus]

This is where you're mistaken.
I've only argued that it works better than socialism.
But regarding the latter, you've always spoken of how
noble it is...people helping each other, more caring, more
kindness, nobility. This despite its heinous record in every
attempt throughout history.
I'm pragmatic.
You're a believer.

Well, I still believe that socialism has great intentions, but they did have to fight, claw, and overcome manifest opposition in order to gain and hold power. They had to fight greedy capitalists, mobsters, aristocrats, warlords and many others who kill for their own personal enrichment.

 

[Estro Felino]

So their governments own the means of production,
with no private ownership of industry, farming, etc?
Things must've really changed since I worked for a
German company (Knorr Bremse).

That is Communism.
They are not the same thing.

The difference between Communism and Socialism is taught in 5th grade, here.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, I still believe that socialism has great intentions, but they did have to fight, claw, and overcome manifest opposition in order to gain and hold power. They had to fight greedy capitalists, mobsters, aristocrats, warlords and many others who kill for their own personal enrichment.

Socialism itself has no intentions at all. It's simply a
system wherein the "people" (ie, government) own
the means of production. Socialism, like capitalism,
communism, feudalism, etc have no good intentions.
Nor bad intentions. Systems just exhibit emergent
properties based upon structure & human nature.

 

[Revoltingest]

That is Communism.
They are not the same thing.

The difference between Communism and Socialism is taught in 5th grade, here.
If you cannot tell the difference, they fail you.
No junior high.

It seems that you don't use English language dictionaries.
These will help...
Definition of socialism | Dictionary.com
Definition of communism | Dictionary.com
And regarding your calling Putin "good" instead of "evil",
these will help....
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/good
Definition of evil | Dictionary.com

Next lesson will be about the difference between
"war" & "special military operation".

 

[Estro Felino]

It seems that you don't use English language dictionaries.
These will help...
Definition of socialism | Dictionary.com
Definition of communism | Dictionary.com

It is not that exact. It is too vague.
Socialism means that the State controls economy to favor employment, so if it is necessary, it will own industries, means of production, etc...
But by keeping respecting free enterprise, when and if possible.

 

[Revoltingest]

Wrong definitions.

Perhaps you've become an English lexicographer now?
You'll have to fix a great many dictionaries.

 

[Estro Felino]

Perhaps you've become an English lexicographer now?
You'll have to fix a great many dictionaries.

Written by a linguist. I have passed macroeconomics and political economics at law school....
so I guess I know what I am talking about.
Btw...read my last post.

 

[Revoltingest]

Written by a linguist. I have passed macroeconomics and political economics at law school....
Btw...read my last post.

So you have the Truth, & all our dictionaries are wrong, eh.
I hate it when that happens.

 

[Stevicus]

Socialism itself has no intentions at all. It's simply a
system wherein the "people" (ie, government) own
the means of production. Socialism, like capitalism,
communism, feudalism, etc have no good intentions.
Nor bad intentions. Systems just exhibit emergent
properties based upon structure & human nature.

People of various political factions and ideologies tend to support proposals and policy changes with some specific goal or intention.