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Examples of mutual understanding between Christians and Atheists

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
As long as a topic doesn't touch on the core principles of one of the groups, there is no reason for disagreement.

There can be women who are taller than some men and men who are weaker than some women, but there is a general tendency of men being a little bit taller and stronger than women.
The same goes for Christians and atheists. Both live on a spectrum and on average Christians are more authoritarian and conservative. And that goes back to Christian core principles. Christianity has one supreme authority, which makes Christians less opposed to authorities. Also, that authority is a "saviour", making Christians less proactive.
But, again, that are averages, not absolutes.
You're an atheist, I am a Christian.
We can agree on so many things, especially politics.
We can agree that unbridled capitalism is wrong, we can agree that universal healthcare is a fundamental human right.
We can also agree on South Tyrol, that is, I believe that they are not giving these people the right to decide about their self-determination through a referendum. Like they did in Scotland.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
You're an atheist, I am a Christian.
We can agree on so many things, especially politics.
We can agree that unbridled capitalism is wrong, we can agree that universal healthcare is a fundamental human right.
We can also agree on South Tyrol, that is, I believe that they are not giving these people the right to decide about their self-determination through a referendum. Like they did in Scotland.
Most of politics falls under the "not touching core principles" category, which I mentioned in my first sentence. And there are really only a few core principles. I'd even go so far to say that some core dogma isn't based on core principles. E.g. only a minority of Catholics see abortion and contraception as a non-debatable topic.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Most of politics falls under the "not touching core principles" category, which I mentioned in my first sentence. And there are really only a few core principles. I'd even go so far to say that some core dogma isn't based on core principles. E.g. only a minority of Catholics see abortion and contraception as a non-debatable topic.
I need an example of core principle in politics.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
I need an example of core principle in politics.
One possible example I can think of, that might be a core principle as well in politics as in religion, is dignity. In the German Grundgesetz it is §1. "(1) Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority."
I don't know if there is an explicit statement in any religion, but there are many religions who have basic principles from which it can be referred. In Christianity, that would be the belief that every human is created in the image of god.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
One possible example I can think of, that might be a core principle as well in politics as in religion, is dignity. In the German Grundgesetz it is §1. "(1) Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority."
I don't know if there is an explicit statement in any religion, but there are many religions who have basic principles from which it can be referred. In Christianity, that would be the belief that every human is created in the image of god.

Well, yes. But I am not knowledgeble enough to know if dignitiy is a Western cultural norm or not?
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Well, yes. But I am not knowledgeble enough to know if dignitiy is a Western cultural norm or not?
Do you see India (and therefore Hinduism) as western? The Hindu greeting of "Namaste", usually translated as "I recognize the divinity in you", is as much a sign of valuing dignity as it gets.
 
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1213

Well-Known Member
There can be conservative atheists and progressive Christians.
I have often wondered, why care about words conservative and progressive. When "progressive" person gets the "power ring", he becomes conservative, a person who wants to keep his power. And when a conservative loses his power, he becomes progressive.

Conservative or progressive are neutral words. More important and meaningful is what the people want to do with the power, if they get it.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I mean...it is so evident, that despite the heated debates on God's existence and some philosophical questions, there are countless examples of mutual understanding and common ground arising between Christians and Atheists.
That is why, I am really sad when politics wants to create a division between these two groups, by labeling Christians as conservatives and atheists as progressives.
There can be conservative atheists and progressive Christians.

What do you guys think?
;)
There are some Christians who are interested in working to make the world a better place. They are sometimes referred to as progressives and their understanding as social gospel, although I think this tends to demean the fact that they are true believers. I would think that these particular Christians would work very well with those Atheists who are secular humanists.
 
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