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Fair EnoughAV1611 said:I don't know.
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Fair EnoughAV1611 said:I don't know.
pah said:Perhaps I can be less sarcastic - how is it, AV1611, that the Egyptians and Chinese lived through a great flood without recording it but continuing a narrative of their civilization.
Perhaps then, since you don't know how that is possible, you would have to rethink a global flood. The history of Egypt and China is incompatible with a global floodAV1611 said:I don't know.
At least for that particular date...Pah said:Perhaps then, since you don't know how that is possible, you would have to rethink a global flood. The history of Egypt and China is incompatible with a global flood
Hi, PAH!Pah said:Perhaps then, since you don't know how that is possible, you would have to rethink a global flood. The history of Egypt and China is incompatible with a global flood
Do you agree with the following?AV1611 said:I live by one creed: "THE BIBLE SAYS IT, THAT SETTLES IT"
Yes I do, but keep in mind that all those quotes you gave me except the one on Capital Punishment were given "under the Law". We are no longer "under the Law", which served as our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ.Fade said:Do you agree with the following?
That is correct - q.v. my post @ 12:16.painted wolf said:It would have to be older than the Egyptions, Mesopotamians, Chinese and Olmec... or they would have noticed it.
Ditto the Harrapan Civilization.painted wolf said:hmm the Olmec didn't seem to notice the flood either, they went happily though it from 2000-300AD ...
Thank you very much, Joe! I needed that! Good bless you too!joeboonda said:AV1611, KEEP ON MY BROTHER!!! I don't think you can convince these die-hards of anything, lol, "even if one were to come back from the dead they would still not believe" Abraham to the Rich Man, in Luke. I see WAY more evidence for a global catastrophic flood, then for millions of years of evolution, too, but if someone doesn't wanna really examine the facts and just argue all day, then let them go on. PEACE! AND GOD BLESS YOU MY BROTHER!:bounce
Hi, Wolfpainted wolf said:so if the flood happined before the great anchient civilizations were formed, then the biblical timeline for creation would have to be pushed back from 6000 years to closer to 9000-10,000 years ago.
after all the patriarchs lived over 3,000 years themselves. and Egypt began in 3500bc a bit over 5,500 years ago.
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I think that is worthy of respect. But, since you honestly and willingly confirm that you (will) maintain your position irrespective of mounting evidence to the contrary, have you not declared it off limits to debate? Why offer to discuss (debate) a topic when you declare yourself impervious to reason?AV1611 said:Even if archaeologists found Egyptian records that said that the flood didn't occur, I would reject it outright automatically.
Excellent questions, Deut! I'm highly interested in what response is given to them.Deut. 32.8 said:I think that is worthy of respect. But, since you honestly and willingly confirm that you (will) maintain your position irrespective of mounting evidence to the contrary, have you not declared it off limits to debate? Why offer to discuss (debate) a topic when you declare yourself impervious to reason?
Good question! And you're right, there is mounting evidence to the contrary, it's just bogus evidence coupled to junk science (IMHO).Deut. 32.8 said:I think that is worthy of respect. But, since you honestly and willingly confirm that you (will) maintain your position irrespective of mounting evidence to the contrary, have you not declared it off limits to debate? Why offer to discuss (debate) a topic when you declare yourself impervious to reason?
Because Egypt's records could be wrong in a nubmer of places:painted wolf said:but if egypt began after the flood and egypt has a continuous reccord from 30AD to 3,500 BC then the flood must have happined prior to 3,500 BC...
and if that is true then the earth was created (according to the bible) more than than 6000 years ago.
So if the bible itself says it is older than 6000 years then why argue that it is only 6000 years?
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Why do you think it is bogus and junk?Good question! And you're right, there is mounting evidence to the contrary, it's just bogus evidence coupled to junk science (IMHO).
Egyptian historical writings have just as much of a chance of being flawed as does the Bible. Secondly, your statement that "it disagrees with the Bible, therefore it is wrong", does make you off-limits for any sort of debate, as Deut said.Because Egypt's records could be wrong in a nubmer of places:
5th - and most importantly - if it disagrees with the Bible, it's wrong.
Then you are simply proselytizing. Mascarading willful ignorance and a pervasive contempt for science as 'debate' is simply dishonest.AV1611 said:Good question! And you're right, there is mounting evidence to the contrary, it's just bogus evidence coupled to junk science (IMHO). I will not declare it off-limits to debate, though.