questfortruth
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knowledge of a person is defined as information
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Evolution is a fact?!
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Bear Wild
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No we have all said that gorillas, chimps, and humans branched off and evolved from an earlier form but we share so much genetically in common that we are all classified as apes. You and I are both apes. You really need to learn some basic biology for any rational argument, but then if you believe that creation took 6 full rotations of earth on its axis then it is highly likely you will believe anything else that is based on evidence. We are animal because we are classified as animals and we evolved from earlier forms of animals. It is a really simple evidence based concept. No magical thinking needed.
I agree with this part.
The rest...not so much.
questfortruth
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Humans are not birds? Yes. Humans are not bears? Yes. The humans are not cats? Yes. Humans are apes? Yes. I see no logic here.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It has to do with cladistics.
The ancestor that we share with other apes was an ape.
The ancestor that we share with bears was a mammal, but was not a "bear". Therefore we are not bears, But guess what? We are both mammals. The ancestor that we share with bears was a mammal.
The ancestor that we share with birds was not a bird. So we are not birds. But the ancestor that we share with birds was a tetrapod. We are still tetrapods.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
You're still only repeating it.
Word for word even.
It wasn't clear the first time, it wasn't clear the second time.
What makes you think it will be clear the third time?
Do you understand what "to clarify" means? Are you confusing it with "to repeat"?
We're not just any ape...we're one of the great apes.
(Although many of us fail on the "great" portion.)
When is a miracle ever an explanation? By definition, a miracle is unexplained/unexplainable. If it's explainable it's not a miracle.
Quest, you're posting gibberish. Are you just trolling?
What does that mean? Information is not knowledge of a person; and how are you deriving God from this?
You're just repeating yourself. This clarifies nothing.
That's WAY too broad a brush List of autodidacts
Eastern Orthodox Christianity and science specifically evolution: Evolution or Creation Science?
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What's the point of a post made almost entirely out of strawmanning concepts and purposefully misinterpretation?
questfortruth
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Love. Love is always the focal point.
Explain the difference between apes and great apes. Please. If there is a fundamental difference, then we are not apes, nor small nor great.
Look: Bob has come from sleep and sees a 10 billion dollar bank check on his table. He demands an explanation: possibilities are two: Elon Musk came by and made a small present-surprise; there was Angel, who gave it. Thus: miracle, or not a miracle.
Knowledge is the information: I can formulate in bits the General Relativity.
This information has the God, because He is Omniscient.
Gibbons are lesser apes because of their smaller size.
If there's a difference between apes and great apes, humans aren't apes? How does this follow? Explain this.
But the different possibilities are explanations, so they can't me miracles. A miracle is magic, it has no explanation. You may attribute an author, but there is no explanation.
And why just two possibilities?
This is just word salad.
wellwisher
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Darwin wrote his theory of evolution before the discovery of DNA. He postulated the theory of natural selection, which seemed rational or based on cause and affect. The bigger and stronger would win. The modern rendition of evolution, is now based on a random change on the DNA.
Dice, cards and jackpots, which also use statistical arguments where around at the time of Darwin, and Darwin never went that way. Darwin was not into gambling, booze, dance hall girls and stolen merchandise. Darwin is being misrepresented. This has been my beef with evolution. The modern version depends on the same math that is behind gambling games like cards, invented by man, that are not natural. How can you make a natural selection, using the math behind manmade objects? Darwin never said this but rather saw an order in nature.
Playing cards all have the same mass, size and material, yet they have 52 subjective variations plus jokers. Any two decks can be different. This alternate reality only exist because of man. There is nothing in the natural universe that is like that. Nature is quantized, with each quanta representing differences in known physical parameters. It is not about difference in subjective coloration. Nature does not depend on subjective criteria like printed pictures; 100% facade. This is why it is called gaming the system.
Darwin's name is used to add prestige to this, but he never endorsed a gamble model of evolution, run in science casinos. Any gambling addict, even on science, will see himself winning the jackpot, before he enters the casino. This is reinforced by comps, where even if you lose; dos not pan out as planned, you get a bonus; increased odds. This type of unnatural science harms the brain.
Dice, cards and jackpots, which also use statistical arguments where around at the time of Darwin, and Darwin never went that way. Darwin was not into gambling, booze, dance hall girls and stolen merchandise. Darwin is being misrepresented. This has been my beef with evolution. The modern version depends on the same math that is behind gambling games like cards, invented by man, that are not natural. How can you make a natural selection, using the math behind manmade objects? Darwin never said this but rather saw an order in nature.
Playing cards all have the same mass, size and material, yet they have 52 subjective variations plus jokers. Any two decks can be different. This alternate reality only exist because of man. There is nothing in the natural universe that is like that. Nature is quantized, with each quanta representing differences in known physical parameters. It is not about difference in subjective coloration. Nature does not depend on subjective criteria like printed pictures; 100% facade. This is why it is called gaming the system.
Darwin's name is used to add prestige to this, but he never endorsed a gamble model of evolution, run in science casinos. Any gambling addict, even on science, will see himself winning the jackpot, before he enters the casino. This is reinforced by comps, where even if you lose; dos not pan out as planned, you get a bonus; increased odds. This type of unnatural science harms the brain.
questfortruth
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You like to think so, but it does not follow: 1. The miracle is God's wonder (not devil's magic, you should copy), 2. The events can not be explained by it. From 1 does not follow 2, because God is there alive! God is not dead.
Humankind has not decided between Evolutionism and Creationism. Any doubt of Evolution "Fact" proves the Creation.
Quest, you're just preaching. You through out unsupported statements and base your opinions on your own interpretation of unsupported scripture.
questfortruth
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I am reporting what my religion knows, I am sorry if it looks like a rules violation. But I think, that my religion is the good one. For example, my religion knows, that General Relativity was discovered by Einstein.