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Featured Evolution is a fact?!

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by questfortruth, Mar 9, 2021.

  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    Today Charles Darwin exists as a dead body. But, Darwin does exist. How? As a dead body. Thus, the question arises:

    When will Charles Darwin begin his proven path of evolution from non-living to living? "Evolution is a fact", he says.

    And today Darwin exists. In the form of a dead body, gases, liquids. Perhaps when you turn on the faucet in the kitchen, you are drinking a molecule from Darwin's body. So, Darwin exists and you can ask your common sense when Darwin will start the path he has proven [through works of his followers] from the inanimate state to the living.

    Well, yes, Darwin said that the Lord Jesus has created the first life (if this is how you can interpret his vague phrase: "the first cell is chained to the throne of God"), but his followers developed the spirit of Darwin's teachings to the point that the "progressive" humankind understood:

    1. people are still animals (one of the species of apes; however, this is self-contradiction: there was no evolution if humans are still animals), They said earlier that man descended from an ape. Now they say differently: man is still an ape. But then there is no evolution if we are still animals.

    2. black lives must be mercilessly oppressed,

    3. schizophrenics and beggars must be castrated,

    4. unwanted babies must be killed already in the womb; and that the

    5. wildlife came without God's miracle from the non-living matter (and therefore life on Mars was in the distant past).

    But God does not believe in godless Evolution, God is the Creator (it means, God is the most important Creationist).

     
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  2. Orbit

    Orbit I'm a planet

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    Your numbered list is bizarre. What does any of that have to do with evolution?
     
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  3. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    Evolution has nothing to do with the transition from non-living to living; never claimed to.
    What are you talking about? Explain.
    Quest, this is just ridiculous. Why not tie the current pandemic, the
    Chicxulub meteor and the rise of smart phones into your narrative, as well?

    Please tell us what point you're trying to make, rather than just slinging mud.
     
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  4. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    Do you believe in theistic evolution (God is who, evolution is how)?
     
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    Darwin exists now in the minds of people. His body is no more than his body.
     
  6. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    What need of a 'who' if you have a how?
     
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  7. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    Can we avoid an atheism vs theism debate in this thread?
     
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  8. Valjean

    Valjean Veteran Member
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    Depends. Would it be relevant?
    But in any case, I am strictly against a Gros Michel vs Cavendish banana war here.
     
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    Wow this is mindless drivel!

    1. humans are indeed animals. Humans evolved like all animals and thus a product of evolutions. There is no evolution if humans are animals? This is nonsense. the opposite is true.

    2. Black lives were suppressed by people of stout Christian beliefs. Anyone understanding evolution knows that black lives matter just as all races and life does. You have it misrepresented.

    3. Schizophrenics and beggars must be castrated? This has nothing to do with evolution but cultural attitudes often supported by a Christian right wing.

    4. Unwanted babies must be killed??? This again has nothing to do with evolution. Please if you are making statements about evolution do not taint it with untrue statements.

    5. Wildlife did come without any god miracle. Man created God not the other way around . Humans are the grand creators of myth.

    Evolutions created animistic tendencies and social behavior patterns. God was created to help with social control with increasing population or with scarce resources to promote control over the population. Thus an omnipotent god was created in the imagination of human to exert social control. It is a very effective way to control humans but that is all.
     
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  10. Subduction Zone

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    Of course evolution is a fact. But it is rather amazing with all of your time here that you still have an almost zero level of understanding of evolution. Misrepresenting evolution will not go away any more than denying gravity will make it safe to jump out of the tenth story of a tall building.

    But I do enjoy the occasional fractally wrong OP. Congratulations.
     
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  11. questfortruth

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    I believe in literal 6 days Creation. I am Young Earth Creationist, like Martyr Kent Hovind.

    They said earlier that man descended from an ape. Now they say differently: man is still an ape. But then there is no evolution if we are still animals.
     
  12. ChristineM

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    I can say one positive think about the OP. It doesn't have the usual spam links to one of your essays.
     
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  13. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Thats ape like creature and apes are animal's
     
  14. Valjean

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    We're all well aware of your faith, and your inability/refusal to assimilate information. Frankly, your protestations would be taken more seriously if they didn't reflect such flagrant ignorance of the subject you're criticizing.
    No evolution if we're still animals? How do you come to that conclusion?
    Please explain your reasoning.
     
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    Ah, the good old head.bang.wall.
     
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    but I'm pretty confident it's the later.
    With a line-up of straw men like this (and you should know they are, as this has been pointed out many times), you can't be serious.
    Or are you? Then I invite you to teach you the basics of evolutionary theory and guarantee that you will understand evolution or quit learning because you don't want to understand evolution.
     
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    No, man is still an ape. A fact that even Linnaeus, the creationist that developed the genus, species categorization method, recognized. There are no biological traits that other apes have that we don't have.
     
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    Mock Turtle Silent Generation - so don't expect much
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    I like the idea (since we share so much genetic material with other primates) that God used a template (the primate one) and then tried to hide it from us by telling us we were unique and His creation. What a bummer! :oops:
     
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  19. ChristineM

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    Yes i know, we evolved alongside other apes from a common ancestor which was an ape like creature
     
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    Evolution is both an observed fact and a scientific theory, which by definition is a model rather than a fact.

    We observe evolution occurring all the time around us. Topically, the appearance of new strains of the SARS-CoV-2 virus is a good example of evolution. There are numerous others, from bacterial antibiotic resistance to the ability of cancers to evolve so that a chemotherapy drug no longer works. These are fact: they have been reproducibly observed, many times over.

    Evolution as a model of how species in general arise from previous ones is a theory. This is because the change is too slow to be observed within a human lifetime. Exactly the same is true of many natural processes, for example in earth science. But we still have excellent models for, say, the erosion of glaciated landscapes, or plate tectonics. So it with is evolution.
     
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