Evidences given for a young-earth

[sooda]

We can prove that prophesy came true, and that the God apostles died to verify was real and true is actually there and will affect our hearts and lives. Knowing this, we would realize the aspects of His word that are above man's ability to confirm or deny are also true.
Since I suspect that the flood was actually somewhere around 65 million years ago (science time) you matched nothing remotely related to the flood.
Well, just look at God's record in Genesis, and the garden of Eden, days of creation etc. Now look at other accounts science puts out about where we came from. Those are alternate stories of creation.

If Noah's flood was 65 million years ago as you claim that means Noah was living with the dinosaurs.

 

[gnostic]

If Noah's flood was 65 million years ago as you claim that means Noah was living with the dinosaurs.

It sounds stupid, and yet dad believe that to be the case.

 

[dad]

If Noah's flood was 65 million years ago as you claim that means Noah was living with the dinosaurs.

Correct.

 

[PruePhillip]

We can prove that prophesy came true, and that the God apostles died to verify was real and true is actually there and will affect our hearts and lives. Knowing this, we would realize the aspects of His word that are above man's ability to confirm or deny are also true.
Since I suspect that the flood was actually somewhere around 65 million years ago (science time) you matched nothing remotely related to the flood.
Well, just look at God's record in Genesis, and the garden of Eden, days of creation etc. Now look at other accounts science puts out about where we came from. Those are alternate stories of creation.

It says the whole world was flooded. What was the "world" to the ancient Sumerians?
What was the "world" to the Babylonians?
And what was the "world" to the authors of the New Testament?

 

[PruePhillip]

Not if one wants to keep believing in a myth. Then it is a great asset.

True, sigh... sadly true.
If some scientist says to you "There is no evidence... therefor it isn't true"
then a sound background in the philosophy of science will tell you
1 - this guy doesn't understand science
2 - this guy might be using the Appeal to Authority fallacy

and if some guy who studies science tells you "There is a reason for
everything, and a logical explanation for it" then
1 - don't let him tell you the universe pops into being by itself
2 - don't think he knows the reason for us being here.

 

[PruePhillip]

Lack of education is a real handicap.

Sometimes having an education can be a handicap.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Keep on spamming and doing mindless repetitions then.

Says the guy who rambles on and on and on and on and....... on about "different state past", no matter the points being made in the post he's replying to.




Classic case of extreme projection.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Religious agendas are not science, true.
But according to the bible, RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE
MUST BE PROVEN AT A PERSONAL LEVEL, OTHER
WISE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

If history has taught us anything, it most certainly is that "proving things on a personal level", is not a pathway to truth.

 

[Polymath257]

If your primary argument is that the laws of physics *might* have been different in the past or far from the Earth, and you present no evidence for this possibility, and you ignore all the evidence of consistency of the laws with what we see from other places and times,

then you are simply arguing a version of Last Thursdayism and can be justifiably ignored.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Right, and the types of proofs God offers are way above the abilities of science to detect or observe or test

So are unicorn farts.

So they deny and whine and make up alternate creation stories, hoping weak sheep and clueless heathen will buy into their dark tales from the crypt.

Your computer wouldn't even function if it wasn't for the "evil heathen atheistic" evidence based models of science that assume a "same state past" and puts your superstitious god on the same level as thunder creating Thor or seastorm creating Poseidon.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Sometimes having an education can be a handicap.

yeah, like when an ISIS soldier asks you at gunpoint "do you have a college or uni level education?" and shoots you if you say "yes".


I'm having a bit of trouble coming up with other scenario's though.

 

[PruePhillip]

If history has taught us anything, it most certainly is that "proving things on a personal level", is not a pathway to truth.

So that gorgeous sunlight dappled, misty morning can't be "beautiful"
if there is no agreement on "beautiful" or the majority of people prefer
sunsets? Ultimately everything is subjective.

 

[Polymath257]

yeah, like when an ISIS soldier asks you at gunpoint "do you have a college or uni level education?" and shoots you if you say "yes".


I'm having a bit of trouble coming up with other scenario's though.

Oh, it was also a problem during the Cultural Revolution in China, or in Cambodia during the Killing Fields.

Funny how authoritarian regimes don't like intellectuals.

 

[sooda]

Sometimes having an education can be a handicap.

Not really. Have you tried walking on water lately? If you have enough faith you should be able to do so... . or move a mountain.

 

[sooda]

Oh, it was also a problem during the Cultural Revolution in China, or in Cambodia during the Killing Fields.

Funny how authoritarian regimes don't like intellectuals.

Hitler also purged the intellectuals..

 

[PruePhillip]

Not really. Have you tried walking on water lately? If you have enough faith you should be able to do so... . or move a mountain.

Or think (like they did ca 1900) that the world is going to be a wonderful place
of peace and happiness when monarchs and priests are gone.

ps "moving mountains" is an idiom.

 

[PruePhillip]

yeah, like when an ISIS soldier asks you at gunpoint "do you have a college or uni level education?" and shoots you if you say "yes".


I'm having a bit of trouble coming up with other scenario's though.

I said "sometimes"
Our educated Westerners no longer have dogmatic faith.
This led to nihilism - a sense of meaninglessness as
education says there is no meaning to life.
This makes the Muslim strong and the former Christian
weak. And through immigration, conversion, demographics
and terror it might be that the uneducated Muslim might
have the rule over the Western education system one day.

 

[dad]

It says the whole world was flooded. What was the "world" to the ancient Sumerians?
What was the "world" to the Babylonians?
And what was the "world" to the authors of the New Testament?

You forgot one. What does the world mean to God? Well, He did say only Noah and the animals on the ark would be left alive in all the earth. Does that help? Or do you think God is thinking the earth is just a few hundred square miles? If so, you must think He is not too bright because the animals from the rest of the planet could simply migrate back after some local flood. No need for spending many decades building an ark, then rounding up a few of every kind of animal.

 

[dad]

Says the guy who rambles on and on and on and on and....... on about "different state past", no matter the points being made in the post he's replying to.




Classic case of extreme projection.

Actually, the only time the nature in the past comes to mind is when I see claims based on it. Then, naturally I ask, do we know what nature did or did not exist?

 

[dad]

So are unicorn farts.

We'll add that to your beliefs then.

Your computer wouldn't even function if it wasn't for the "evil heathen atheistic" evidence based models of science that assume a "same state past"

Name any function, component, or aspect of any commuter on earth that depends on nature existing a certain way 70 million years ago? Your increasingly wild claims have passed the point of ridiculousness.