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Featured Evidence for a Young Earth (Not Billions of Years Old)

Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by ftacky, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Milton Platt

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    you can find information about each and every one of these claims that debunk your conclusions about them. They are readily available on the internet these days. Don’t expect others to do your work for you.
     
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  2. Jose Fly

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    This sort of thing from young-earth creationists has always fascinated me. Basically they're setting the conditions to where if the earth and universe are ancient (i.e., billions of years old) then Christianity is false. I would guess that's a challenge the enemies of Christianity are all too happy to accept.
     
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  3. ChristineM

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    I have, well its a kitten who thinks she is.
     
  4. ChristineM

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    Someone is ignoring such a lot of evidence to make the claims fit confirmation bias.
    Use google to check any of your "scientific" points on science sites rather than creationist sites to see the whole story, not the cherry picked bits a creationist needs to massage his ego.
     
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  5. URAVIP2ME

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    I find what you posted shows that mankind living on Earth is thousands of years old, Not the Earth.
    There is Nothing in Genesis to say how old Earth is because each of the creative days are Not 24-hr. days.
    There is Nothing in Genesis to even show if each of the creative days are of the same length of time or Not.
    ALL of the creative days are summed up by the singular word " day " at Genesis 2:4.
     
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    Also, my understanding about CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation) shows No young Earth possible.
     
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    I realize CMBR indicates the universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old, but how does CMBR demonstrate the Earth's age?
     
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    "then by default the Bible has to be right in its"


    The above should read" then by default you have to be right in your"

    In actuality YEC is articulating we live in a virtual reality.
     
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    It is an axiom that the universe is consistent in theory and does not change radically due to no cause. For example carbon dating relies upon radioactive decay. The rate is consistent, hence why it is used as a measurement. The argument would be that the decay rate is not consistent thus dating is unreliable. This can be applicable in other subjects of physics but it always targeted at issue which contradict YEC views. It is an ad hoc rescue rather than any sort of argument.
     
  10. ftacky

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    Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shall you labour, and do all your work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD your God: in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.Exodus 20:8-11

    God told the Israelites to work 6 days and rest on the 7th just like Him. Understanding God in their own time and language, what did they do?

    They worked 6 solar days and rested on the 7th. If the Israelites understood it that way....
     
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    BINGO...
    If the extinction of the dinosaurs was only 6000 years ago there would be DNA in the remains and preservation of frozen remains, like the mammoths.

    Obviously Christian's deceive themselves by trying so hard to prove such nonsense!!!

    Just look at the moon people with your own eyes.. written in it is the evidence of the late asteroid bombardment which no complex life would have lived through.... if the moon has all those massive craters just think what the earth got? Proof the earth was an oven, you dont read that in Genesis... neither any of the extinctions of over 90 percent of species before we even got here.
     
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  12. ChristineM

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    There are many reasons, evidences and proofs to show the age of the universe, the CMB is one if them.

    But i cannot see how it shows the age of the earth
     
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    Yes Ockham's Razor is applied, of course.

    I was hoping to smoke out this poster's views on that, so we could clarify that denial of the science relies on departing from this principle, and then see where that might lead.

    But it looks as if this post was just a drive-by in any case, :rolleyes: in which case we'll never know what this person thinks.
     
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    It seems ftacky has left the building.

    Nevertheless, it was good to hear from a good old fashioned YEC. At least they take the Bible at its word. Not like the Old-Earth Creationists, who try to fiddle with the length of days to make scripture fit their silly beliefs.
     
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    I would appreciate if you would start separate threads on each point and maybe one at a time. That way a person could do their own research and not have to spend hours before they could adequately respond to this post.
     
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    Agree 100%, but I think this was a drive-by from someone who can't discuss the ideas, hence the Gish Gallop approach.
     
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    From a physical perspective, the idea of an Earth being 6,000 to 7,000 years old is impossible from the standpoint of physical science (and archaeology as well). In fact, there are numerous Neolithic and paleolithic human artifacts from that period of time. According to physical evidence, the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

    However, who says 6,000 years means 6,000 of Earth's orbit around the sun? Why would God consider Earth's years as the benchmark to measure time. Time is a social construct. One could use the orbit of a the most distant object in the solar system as a year, for instance.

    And perhaps 6,000 years measured that way would measure up, as gravitational influence of the sun on objects extends much further than anything that has been visited with our space probes or seen with telescopes (due to low light levels at this distance from the sun). This influence would likely be around 1 light year or so, which is far further than where any

    Also, the measurement of "year" in the bible could refer to the revolutions of a certain exoplanet around a different star. Perhaps, it is particularly significant in some manner, perhaps this planet has not even be discovered yet. Essentially, whose to say that the 6,000 years that are referred to in the Bible are Earth years. It could be some other measurement of time, one that we may not even be aware of yet.
     
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    Hmm... do you really think the writers of the creation account had that in mind. The account was written in the bronze age 3000 years ago. They meant it the way its read.. 6 day creation, earth was the center of creation, the sun and moon and stars were created after the earth, man was was molded from clay, etc.

    When I was younger I also tried to rationalize the creation account with science facts but I realized the whole account is what it is... a bronze age creation story. Similar to the Egyptian version where RA created the earth.
     
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