European Christian Heritage

[Spiderman]

This thread kind of exemplifies why this is happening.

Europeans apparently want Europe to be a cultureless pit where our own heritages and culture are burned up to roaring cries of 'progress' as our ancestors scream from their graves.

Amen!

I enshrine European women that get raped and murdered by Islamic immigrants.

These two I don't think were killed by Muslims, but I feel close to them.

Nothing against Migrants from Africa. Most are certainly good people, but Pamela Masterpietro was dismembered while she was still alive, raped + murdered by a migrant from Africa. Her arms and legs removed while she was still alive, and her remains found in a suitcase:

Since Masterpietro, means Master "Peter", and Peter was the first Pope, I call her my "Master Pope"! She is my Spiritual Mother and Shepherd, my Peter, my Master. Pamela means "Honey, pure sweetness".


Desiree Mariottini was drugged , raped , and tortured all day, then murdered, age 16 by Migrants from Africa. I named Smith bridge after here, and that same day, walked across the bridge, tossed a coin into the Mississippi river, then noticed the bridge had two dates next to each other on the other side "1987/2018". I was born 1987. She was killed 2018. Shortly before that, while panhandling, a man gave me a booklet called "God's Bridge". I felt close to Desiree ever since.












"UPDATE: SWEDISH GIRL LISA HOLM KIDNAPPED RAPED MURDERED & HER BODY CHOPED UP BY THREE MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS: SWEDISH AUTHORITIES & MEDIA REFUSE TO NAME MUSLIMS"
More than 7,000 people disappear in Sweden every year"
UPDATE: Swedish Girl Lisa Holm Kidnapped Raped Murdered & Her Body Choped Up By Three Muslim Immigrants: Swedish Authorities & Media Refuse To Name Muslims

Europe is screaming and Europe is dying!

Thank you for starting this thread @Rival! You are a hero to the victims of the forces that are destroying Europe.

Many of the illegal immigrants are coming from countries that have been trying to conquer and destroy Europe for many centuries. Europeans had to fight Muslims for roughly 600 years on Spanish Soil. French had to fight Moorish Muslim invaders on French soil. Italians saved Italy from Ottoman Muslim aggression when they won the battle of Lepanto, and sank the Turkish navy. Other nations in Europe have been attacked by Muslim invaders throughout History.

Many Muslims are candid about the Islamification and conquest of Europe through high birthrate and immigration.

This thread is a voice to those martyrs who cannot speak. I love my Muslim neighbor , but I have read the Qur'an. It is intrinsically very hostile to European culture, atheists, polytheists, and those who join associates with Allah (Christians).

 

[Rival]

Buddhism, Hinduism

Yes, it has been home to other religions but the dominating force in 99% of Europe from the end of the Roman Era to now has been Christianity, and trying to avoid that is odd. Exceptions are not rules and I don't consider Turkey European, I consider them the Near East. The countries they conquered were Christians and the Christians fought to the death to remove them.

Those Pagan cultures pre-date the conception of Europe as a cultural and political entity, so they're not relevant to this discussion.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Amen!

I enshrine European women that get raped and murdered by Islamic immigrants.

These two I don't think were killed by Muslims, but I feel close to them.

Nothing against Migrants from Africa. Most are certainly good people, but Pamela Masterpietro was dismembered while she was still alive, raped + murdered by a migrant . Her arms and legs removed while she was still alive, and her remains found in a suitcase:

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Since Masterpietro, means Master "Peter", and Peter was the first Pope, I call her my "Master Pope"! View attachment 56739 View attachment 56740 She is my Spiritual Mother and Shepherd, my Peter, my Master. Pamela means "Honey, pure sweetness".


Desiree Mariottini was drugged , raped , and tortured all day, then murdered, age 16. I named Smith bridge after here, and that same day, walked across the bridge, tossed a coin into the Mississippi river, then noticed the bridge had two dates next to each other on the other side "1987/2018". I was born 1987. She was killed 2018. Shortly before that, while panhandling, a man gave me a booklet called "God's Bridge". I felt close to Desiree ever since.

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"UPDATE: SWEDISH GIRL LISA HOLM KIDNAPPED RAPED MURDERED & HER BODY CHOPED UP BY THREE MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS: SWEDISH AUTHORITIES & MEDIA REFUSE TO NAME MUSLIMS"
More than 7,000 people disappear in Sweden every year"
UPDATE: Swedish Girl Lisa Holm Kidnapped Raped Murdered & Her Body Choped Up By Three Muslim Immigrants: Swedish Authorities & Media Refuse To Name Muslims

Europe is screaming and Europe is dying!

Thank you for starting this thread @Rival! You are a hero to the victims of the forces that are destroying Europe.

Many of the illegal immigrants are coming from countries that have been trying to conquer and destroy Europe for many centuries. Europeans had to fight Muslims for roughly 600 years on Spanish Soil. French had to fight Moorish Muslim invaders on French soil. Italians saved Italy from Ottoman Muslim aggression when they won the battle of Lepanto, and sank the Turkish navy. Other nations in Europe have been attacked by Muslim invaders throughout History.

Many Muslims are candid about the Islamification and conquest of Europe through high birthrate and immigration.

This thread is a voice to those martyrs who cannot speak. I love my Muslim neighbor , but I have read the Qur'an. It is intrinsically very hostile to European culture, atheists, polytheists, and those who join associates with Allah (Christians).

Now we get the true colors.
I bet you Anders Breivik was actual a Muslim immigrant.

 

[Rival]

I'm guessing you'd be amazed at how many accidents happen with rooms full of lit candles.

They've been doing that for centuries tho. 800+ is steep.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yes, it has been home to other religions but the dominating force in 99% of Europe from the end of the Roman Era to now has been Christianity, and trying to avoid that is odd. Exceptions are not rules and I don't consider Turkey European, I consider them the Near East. The countries they conquered were Christians and the Christians fought to the death to remove them.

Those Pagan cultures pre-date the conception of Europe as a cultural and political entity, so they're not relevant to this discussion.

Yes, you are the Truth. But we Europeans have learn to fight the Truth. That you don't like that, is your problem.

 

[Kooky]

Amen!

I enshrine European women that get raped and murdered by Islamic immigrants.

These two I don't think were killed by Muslims, but I feel close to them.

Nothing against Migrants from Africa. Most are certainly good people, but Pamela Masterpietro was dismembered while she was still alive, raped + murdered by a migrant from Africa. Her arms and legs removed while she was still alive, and her remains found in a suitcase:

If you're going to spew xenophobic spam, could you at least restrict that to your usual Journal posts?

 

[Spiderman]

Now we get the true colors.
I bet you Anders Breivik was actual a Muslim immigrant.

There are many good nonviolent foreign Muslims, and bad violent European Christians.

I'm saying Islam as a Religion is intrinsically violent in it's essence and nature. Just read the Qur'an and the lifestyle of Muhammad. Some Religions are not intrinsically violent or bigoted in their essence and nature. Islam is. Islamic Culture as it is in many countries , and as it was originally, is very hostile to European culture.

That said, many Muslims are not hostile to European Culture. I love them.

But those Muslims also are probably following their conscience and not following the Qur'an or lifestyle of the prophet.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

There are many good nonviolent foreign Muslims, and bad violent European Christians.

I'm saying Islam as a Religion is intrinsically violent in it's essence and nature. Just read the Qur'an and the lifestyle of Muhammad. Some Religions are not intrinsically violent or bigoted in their essence and nature. Islam is. Islamic Culture as it is in many countries , and as it was originally, is very hostile to European culture.

That said, many Muslims are not hostile to European Culture. I love them.

But those Muslims also are probably following their conscience and not following the Qur'an or lifestyle of the prophet.

Yeah, I am not in the mood for that one.

 

[Left Coast]

They've been doing that for centuries tho. 800+ is steep.

I dont know what's steep and what isn't. Per a quick Google search it looks like there are about 40,000 church buildings in the UK. So 800 would be about 2%.

And are we talking small fires that were put out and repairs were made/the building is still usable? Or fires where the entire building was burned to ashes?

 

[Kooky]

And are we talking small fires that were put out and repairs were made/the building is still usable? Or fires where the entire building was burned to ashes?

I presume that we are referencing information none of us have let alone is interested enough to dig up.

 

[Spiderman]

If you're going to spew xenophobic spam, could you at least restrict that to your usual Journal posts?

It was relevant to the topic of Europe being destroyed, and relevant to a post about the spirits and ghosts of Europeans, or our "ancestors screaming from their graves". That post sunk into my heart because I honor the dead of all ethnicities and Religions, including deceased Muslims as well.

I was honoring some victims of atrocities, and there is some blatant hatred, bigotry, and calls to violence, and graphic mutilations in the Qur'an that stirs up hateful bigoted regimes. Should not not be pointed out to those who are unaware?

It seemed relevant to a thread about Europe being destroyed, and Islam replacing Christianity at an alarming rate. We should lovingly educate people to not hate. That includes pointing out the hate/bigotry in the Qur'an.

 

[Rival]

I dont know what's steep and what isn't. Per a quick Google search it looks like there are about 40,000 church buildings in the UK. So 800 would be about 2%.

These are happening in France, not the UK.

Even if it is accidents, or just acts of vandalism, someone with the authority should at least try making sure it happens much less often. That's really all I'm arguing for here and I feel as though I'm being blasted for caring. I wasn't blaming anyone, wasn't complaining about anyone, just found it sad that this is happening and that it's not regularly reported and no-one seems to care. I get Europe is mostly atheistic, especially the UK and much of western Europe in general, but even as a non-Christian it deeply saddens me that folks are just shrugging off 1,500+ years of history so easily. I mean, all I mostly do on here is debate with Christians. They must think I hate them. I said something kind of good about Christianity and this is the result. I just don't get it.

 

[Laika]

The Thirty Years War, the Hussite Wars, and the French Wars of Religion tell a different story.

The Enlightenment and its Secular Humanism were "born out of" Christianity in the same sense as Marxism was "born out of" Liberal Capitalism: They were reactions against the very real and material negative, in many cases devastating, effects these phenomena had on the people of Europe.

That's true, as Marxism is more loyal to the classical economics that gave birth to capitalism than the mainstream economics is today. They tried to revise out the labour theory of value in the late 19th century for starters once they realised how it justified Socialism and workers as producers owning the products and means of production.

And even when it came to Marxists thinking about cultural revolution, the tension between preserving the past and building on it was still there:

"We must take the entire culture left by capitalism and build socialism out of it. We must take all science, technology, all knowledge, and art. Without this we cannot build life in a communist society." (Lenin) (p.748, Kuusinen, Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism).

 

[Kooky]

That's really all I'm arguing for here and I feel as though I'm being blasted for caring.

No, you are being blasted for attacking Europeans and Muslims. Perhaps you don't feel that way because you no longer notice it yourself when you dismiss other people's worldviews and express disgust over Europe's Muslim heritage.

 

[Kooky]

That's true, as Marxism is more loyal to the classical economics that gave birth to capitalism than the mainstream economics is today. They tried to revise out the labour theory of value in the late 19th century for starters once they realised how it justified Socialism and workers as producers owning the products and means of production.

And even when it came to Marxists thinking about cultural revolution, the tension between preserving the past and building on it was still there:

"We must take the entire culture left by capitalism and build socialism out of it. We must take all science, technology, all knowledge, and art. Without this we cannot build life in a communist society." (Lenin) (p.748, Kuusinen, Fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism).

And now, please start argueing that Marxism is a liberal capitalist school of thought with a straight face.

 

[Rival]

No, you are being blasted for attacking Europeans and Muslims.

I haven't meant to; I'm frustrated with Europeans at their apathy towards their own history.

I haven't said anything about Muslims at all.

 

[Kooky]

I haven't said anything about Muslims at all.

Perhaps you didn't even notice.

And are you ecstatic about the skyrocketing amount of mosques in France? Do you think this is 'progress'?

No, actually. I find all culture interesting, pretty much.

I just prioritise mine.

I never said they weren't, but European heritage isn't Islamic. If you think it is I don't know what to tell you, honestly. Europe is itself a Christian invention/concept.

Can you muster the sliver of effort necessary to understand why I might be so cross when you frame your concern over churches (not European people, architecture, or culture; churches, exclusively) in this manner?

 

[Spiderman]

These are happening in France, not the UK.

Even if it is accidents, or just acts of vandalism, someone with the authority should at least try making sure it happens much less often. That's really all I'm arguing for here and I feel as though I'm being blasted for caring. I wasn't blaming anyone, wasn't complaining about anyone, just found it sad that this is happening and that it's not regularly reported and no-one seems to care. I get Europe is mostly atheistic, especially the UK and much of western Europe in general, but even as a non-Christian it deeply saddens me that folks are just shrugging off 1,500+ years of history so easily. I mean, all I mostly do on here is debate with Christians. They must think I hate them. I said something kind of good about Christianity and this is the result. I just don't get it.

You aren't Christian, yet do such a superb job of defending Christians. You should start an alliance between multiple Religions. It's my dream that all Religions would stop fighting and unite to fight against the secularization of everything, the casting off of traditions, despising our fathers and heroes, faith and morality, etc.

The world doesn't have many like you! Thank you for this thread!

 

[Rival]

Perhaps you didn't even notice.

Those are relevant to the thread, if you want to be nitpicky. I wasn't attacking them.

 

[Kooky]

Those are relevant to the thread, if you want to be nitpicky. I wasn't attacking them.

How is the number of mosques in Europe relevant to a thread ostensibly about churches?