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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Rival, Oct 19, 2021.

  1. Brinne

    Brinne Active Member

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    Well for one you told someone to stop crying and to go and donate just on the basis of making a thread
     
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    Oh Rival! If there were one person on RF, I could vote Il Duce (Italian Title for Leader), Caesar, Holy Roman Empress of the European Union, (United States of Europe, Anti-communist, anti-secular, anti-bolshivek Block, Holy Roman Empire) that Empress/Caesar would be you, hands down! :) You are not politically correct at all, and liberal policies and morality that are bad for society , you reject them all it appears. :heart:

    European culture and Religion is being destroyed, and Europe is dying and decaying. :( European culture/traditions at this rate, will be destroyed. Someone like you is needed to save the continent! ;)
     
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  3. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    So you want me to carry your burden. Fair enough, do it within the system of how we do it or get a gun and see if you can win.

    We, the people, have limited resources and we decide how to use them through democracy. Accept that, work within the system or overthrow it.
     
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    Capitalism at its most brutal - supply and demand.

    I'm happy to report that my local church is now housing, much more useful than a poorly attended church.
     
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  5. Rival

    Rival Dex Me Gart
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    Well I voted for Brexit so I would not be in the EU, but your sentiment is appreciated :) :greenheart:
     
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  6. Kooky

    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    I was pointing them to an easy way to get involved in the solution they clearly want. Can you explain what exactly you found so unethical that you are attacking me outright without even bothering to pass a token glance at the issue under discussion?
     
  7. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    No, in France they belong to the Catholic Church and that is their problem. In Denmark they belong to the state and you can voluntarily pay state church taxes. I do so, even if I am an atheist.
     
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    Brexit is common sense.

    The Eu is killing itself. The enemy is found in Brussels. I'm saying if you ran the EU, we would have a better Europe. BY FAR! :)

    You aren't politically correct! :blueheart:
     
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  9. Rival

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    I can see it was a mistake expecting the European denizens of RF to care :(
     
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  10. Brinne

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    And it’s within peoples right to critique how those resources are utilized, no?

    Carrying each other’s burdens is kind of how society functions. We assist each other to make the burden lighter.

    Of course unless you live completely off the grid
     
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  11. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Yeah, I don't care like you do. That must be hard for you. ;)
     
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  12. Kooky

    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    So what solution do you propose?
     
  13. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, we can't meet all the demands. So we choose only to do some. If your problem is that you don't like that, replace democracy with something else.
     
  14. Brinne

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    I don’t know if I’d call critiquing your approach to the conversation as “attacking you” - wasn’t really a malicious comment.

    I just found the approach of trying to throw the argument for heritage conversation under the bus with a “just donate lol” approach was kind of a bad takes.
     
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  15. Kooky

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    Yea, it has to be that; it is definitely inconceivable that the problem simply may not be as dramatic and world-shattering as your cursory glance at a single Grauniad article made it out to be.
     
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    Yes, it is. I find it upsetting. I don't know what kind of person doesn't try to have at least some respect for magnificent buildings that were constructed before modern technology thousands of years ago, left to us to remind us of our past and our ancestry, where we came from and who we are.

    Yes, it's upsetting that you don't care about that.
     
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  17. Kooky

    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    Why was it a bad take? The OP was decrying apathy towards the problem, and personal initiative is not only the first step but a crucial step to solving apathy at the personal level.
     
  18. mikkel_the_dane

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    Well, what is politics if it is bad take or not. That is how we do it in Denmark. We voluntarily pay state church taxes. If you don't like that, get a vote and try to change it. That is how the system works.
     
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    Well for one I’d probably recommend so physical protections for churches under threat. In my city we utilized protective coverings for stained glass for example.

    From a policy stand point I think the issue tends to be lack of incentive for the preservation of existing build stock. Though I think funding to preserve structures of cultural importance (whether Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, secular whatever) is generally a good thing. Since I’m generally opposed to the Corbusierfication of urban spaces.

    I’m not sure how to address issues of arson because my background is in preservation of the build environment not criminal justice. I guess investigate for why there’s such a rise in these arson cases?
     
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  20. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    I do care. I voluntarily pay my state church taxes. I just don't like that you tell me, what I must do to please you, because you are the judge of it.
     
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