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Ethics and Comfort

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by ZenMonkey, Oct 23, 2019.

  1. ZenMonkey

    ZenMonkey St. James VII

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    When ethics and comfort collide ... The question becomes what is and what isn't ethical? For example, some are denied creature comforts based on lifestyle, sometimes religion, sometimes based on appearance, and other times based on the way a person speaks, and then on to illness or disability. So, with that said, why is this so prominent in the world we live in? For example, and as a man who lives without a permanent home, I've seen people on these streets who should be making millions based on intellect alone, others based on certain abilities. Some have very serious problems that need attention. I mean some of these people truly need help, or have needed help in the past, and based on those needs past or present, they are denied creature comforts and instead of receiving the needed help, they are instead held down and almost excommunicated from society. There's a song I like by Yelawolf It's titled: "Best Friend" Eminem has a part in it also.

     
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    the secret of real comfort is within regardless of your situation.. invocation happens if you ask for it.
     
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    ethics are a byproduct ... ethics morals scriptures teachings are lost if one loses contact with the inner guru. There were no ethics when the world began.. they are a mere byproduct .



    ps- Questions and Answers will flash on top right and left...turn on english subs as well pls.
     
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  4. Regiomontanus

    Regiomontanus non est ad astra mollis e terris via

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    Homelessness and mental health issues go hand in hand. So many people need our help...but can we really expect any significant, systemic positive change in this regard under a capitalist system? Where is the profit in helping the most vulnerable in society?
     
  5. Howard Is

    Howard Is Lucky Mud

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    There is some truth to that.

    It is also true that people are more likely to learn that in a relatively safe and comfortable environment.
     
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    true...but somethings happening on a grand scale and its now reaching out to everyone.. the next age has begun .

    try this... next morning you wake up ...take out 5 mins after you chores...and listen to this.... pick any name you like ...and repeat that name as much as you can during the day ...within a week invocation will happen ...and you ll know something has happened...the easiest sign is goosebumps...try it nothing to lose.




    FYI THESE NAMES ARE OF THE SAME IMMACULATE POWER NOT 1 DEITY.
    Also becareful not to ask for material goods from this power... rather ask things like ...please open my heart and make it shine... or please relax my wandering mind.... ask for non material stuff and it multiplies... it falls in love with you .
     
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  7. ZenMonkey

    ZenMonkey St. James VII

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    I've stated as much before, but it isn't as easy as some make it out to be. I remember reading about a Jewish individual during the ... umm ... concentration camp era stating as much. How we deal with situations and circumstances out of our control makes a huge difference, but it isn't easy to find comfort aside from an inner type of peace, a spiritual acceptance of dire situations. Here in America a person would think there is hope for all and the right to pursue happiness would be applicable to all, yet that isn't the case even for U.S. born and raised united states citizens. No, instead there's a great deal of holding people down so it's damn near impossible to rise. Look at some nieghborhoods... Liqueur stores on every corner, rampant drug use, and easy accessibility of whatever the hell people involved in that lifestyle want, coupled with a good deal of pushing and pimping and willingness to destroy those in that community by not just the liqueur stores on every corner, but by the very same community that raised them. It's a catch 22, a two edged sword, and not easy to get away from, but then some do ... or attempt to but are further held down by other authorities who disagree with how they once lived, so they keep bunching them all together and discard them from society. Like I stated, I've seen people who should be making millions with their talents, but can't seem to get past their past or their current realities to make it happen.
     
  8. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    I think it's a reflection of our own psychology in regards to these matters by the way we approach things like this.

    Human nature doesn't permit any level playing field because people have varying levels of empathy and compassion which doesn't always mesh well.
     
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    im fully aware of how drugs are burning your country ... im fully aware that multiple powers are conspiring to break your society.. despite all those worries .. if you look at any other country similar things are happening.. or maybe even worse..
    yes you cannot ignore them ...but also cannot solve them..
    choices made by people ... in this life or their past is in play.. on the bright side those with a zeal are trying to make a difference ...

    the pains and sufferings are different for all... the talented are suffering their talent as it isnt getting them what they think they deserve, the real question is ...when happiness is FREE.. even after getting the millions satisfaction is further than one can grasp it NOW.

    success increases thirst because its is BOUNDLESS... something as simple as water could do that for free.
     
  10. ZenMonkey

    ZenMonkey St. James VII

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    First point: They don't really go hand in hand, but some like to place those they don't understand away from society and out in the open ... for whatever reason. Hell, veterans become homeless based on trauma, stress, and whatnot. Police men also, and did you know that there have been reported 100 police suicide attempts in just the past year? There's only so much we can do, but we do try ... It's much to do about the way people are perceived and then treated because of that perception. I'll agree on your point on setting people up to succeed instead of setting people up to fail. Success turns failure inside out after all and there unlimited potential out on the streets waiting to be realized and acknowledged.
     
  11. ZenMonkey

    ZenMonkey St. James VII

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    I have to agree with that ... We are where we are and we are how we are and that's just the way it is. Empathy ... being able to put your feet in another man's shoes so to speak isn't like sympathy where we already understand and have been through something similar. Then again, human nature is fairly simple... I like to feel good. I would assume that's the case for you as well.
     
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    O.K ... clean water and how things and ideals are marketed. I get it. Money doesn't solve much of anything when some with millions write off those with so little as being insignificant and expendable. Satisfaction, an attack on the wealthy, those with talent, and a Trojan horse. So, what do we do aside from become more cooperative, work together, and understand personal need as well as societal needs? I myself like money, but with our deficit is it even possible to ever in a about a million lifetimes catch up? So, say we're up against our creditors, we can't pay, and because we can't pay we're excommunicated from the world? Hey ... Sounds great to me! Sounds like a first step in the right direction. O.k. forget foreign trade and lets pull our troops and bring them home and we'll establish a nice little slice of paradise right here in the United states. Capitalism ... It be perfect as an independent entity away from whatever new world order might come into play. Global currency .. forget about it, we'll create or keep our own. Defense issues ... Don't start nothin won't be nothin is what we've always stated, so ... Is our country prepared to do this? We're not getting out of debt anytime soon, and until we do we're fighting an uphill battle and will keep being held down to no avail. Lets put up some wall and make this country a nice little slice of great.
     
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    HYPER HYPER HYPER... lot to fix short life...Need to attain enlightenment... need to meditate need to do social work ...Everything will be just fine..

    give it some time ...goodness is on its way.
     
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    I know right? I agree ... Like, don't sweat the small stuff and it's all small stuff. I look at it like this: Take a grain of sand, place it on the ground outside. Now, that grain of sand is the earth and everything else is what's beyond the earth. That's how small we are, so again ... don't sweat the small stuff. I do enjoy helping others. What I do for others I do for me. It just makes me feel better, but when it ceases to make me feel better, I quit helping. Atm, I'm living life as an Indiana Jones type or a national treasure Nicholas cage typre, as an explorer with a hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. 42 ... yes yes ... Great answer.
     
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