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Environmentalism, Anti-Immigrantism, White Supremacism, & Terrorism....A Connection?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Revoltingest, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. Revoltingest

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    I too am a fan of correctly identifying masonry.
    But we should still keep things in perspective.
     
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    It's brave of you to admit it.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Come on.. This guy is a card. What's not to like! :)
     
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    There are a couple people I rub the wrong way.
    Moreover, I'm not sure there's anyone I rub the right way.
     
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    Are you kidding? It's hilarious!
     
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    I watched a video of an Antifa member takes concrete out of the traps and throw it at the bus in the video. I am pointing out both sides are violent. Normal citizens were taking the slabs away from larpers. I apologized for no one. Try again son. Less rhetoric and more reading next time. I said nothing about the hammer attack.

    You are easily fooled by one side and are an ideologue that can not read what they respond to.

    *Sandstone can still cave your skull in. You are an apologist for violence. Nothing more. Bunch of larpers fighting in gun control city not a place they can and will get shot.
     
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    If embracing a good cause can lead some people to do more good, then why can it not lead others to do more bad? If I support a good cause, then I can justify the extremes I have to go to in support of that cause.

    I think it is a phenomenon of the extremes used to justify a position that is seen as maniacal by the rest of society.

    Environmental reform as the side effect of extreme fascist racism is certainly conceivable. The German highway system and transportation benefited as a side effect to Nazi extremism. Though I am not suggesting that it was worth all the millions of lives that were lost. It is only noted as a side effect that had a positive result and not as justification for genocide.
     
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    Is antifa and anti-fascist the same thing? I am anti-fascist.
     
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    I think there is a difference between being in favor of reasonable immigration and views that are completely intolerant of immigration on the basis of ethnicity. You can be for limited immigration for many practical reasons of economics, security, the environment, and even the logistics of the care and housing new arrivals. Limited does not mean none, but it does not have to mean all either. No matter how hard you try, you cannot get 10 pounds of corn into a 5 pound bag.
     
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    Let this be your last battlefield was the first thing that came to my mind too. That's weird.
     
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    The graphic is mostly about perspective and how a narrow focus or narrowing the focus can be used to misrepresent what is actually happening. Since there is no caption we do not know who the figures represent and any individual or group could be substituted into the roles.

    With my imagination, I can see the figures as approximating twisted swastikas. Perhaps they are both fascist and engaged in violence because that is what fascist love to do. Maybe it is a fascist utopia where they have killed off everyone they hate and only have each other to kill.

    In other words, just the image itself is open to wider interpretation outside of the main point about perspective and manipulation of it.
     
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    Not when it hits a metal bus and not someone's head.
     
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    Then Kenny.
     
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    There were people between the bus and the rock thrower. The rock thrower was several feet below the bus. There was a barrier hindering line of sight. Try again.
     
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    To quote the great Delmar O'Donnell, I'm with you fellas.
     
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    The Video of the rock throwers clearly shows them waving people out of the way and it was evident they were targeting the bus and not the people (who also appear to be anti-fascists) standing in-between the bus and them. You're really grasping at straws here.

    Nontheless, the point I was initially making in this thread is that Ngo's reporting of the interaction was entirely dishonest and intended to provide cover to the fascists.
    Seeing as you have denounced "both sides" you should agree with me on this in some capacity.
    You admit yourself that these fascists came for a fight. They initiated an attack with hammers on a person who had not engaged in any violence.
    Ngo refuses to admit that the neo-nazis attacked an innocent man, continually providing cover for the fascists.

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    Andy Ngo is now trying to create sympathy for the original neonazi hammer attacker, because someone wrestled his hammer out of his hand and threw it back at him. Picture attached.
     

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    I like natural stone for its appearance and durability. It blends so well with the environment. If I am going to lob masonry, 9 times out of 10, it will be natural stone.
     
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    I'm sorry. I must have misread the title again. I thought this thread was about political extremism. I'll be going now. Don't get up on my account. Yawl just stay right were ya are and I'll get the door.
     
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    No they did. More so a lot of people on the side-walk never even looked at the rock throwers below them. Try again. Beside attacking people for holding a views you do like are fascist tactics.


    Ngo is an outrage media pundit.

    I do. The whole protest situation has just became a location for two or more groups to have their violent political conflicts. Antifa goes to protests of groups they do not like in order to attack people. The right-wing groups are doing the same. Neither is trying to reduce the violence. They want it. Portland's mayor is weak hence why this stuff happens all the time in the city instead of some place in Texas.

    Of course they did. Half those fools are wearing DIY body armour and weapons. The conflict feeds both, or more, group's self-righteous complex. Hence why I said they are larpers. They are acting their conflict as if far greater than a brawl. Hence why your link has fools comparing themselves to D-day troops. Which is ironic given the US military's views of race at the time. Blacks were not consider fit to be combat soldiers. They were cooks and labourers. Britain had to use it's empire to serve while many of it's colonies independence movements were crushed. Toss in Stalin had to curb communist movement in those areas lest the alliance collapse.

    Looks like it at this time. They came out fighting a group that was attacking the vehicle. All these violent groups show up trying to provoke each other to attacks. Antifa attacks the vehicle which is a crime. The group in the bus comes out swinging with weapons, a crime. A lot of the time the courts call it a wash unless someone is seriously injured.

    Ngo sells one side of the story pay his bills. He is using media protection in law from libel and slander to say what he wants like a lot of people in the media do these days.
     
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    Love doesn't work that way
     
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