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Featured Enough To Make Fair-Minded Christians Sick To Their Stomachs

Discussion in 'Religious News' started by Skwim, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    To say nothing of non-Christians.


    "One of the best things about Christians breaking the law and promoting their religion in public schools is that they can’t stop publicly bragging about it, making it easier to stop.

    A couple of weeks ago, the Pulaski County Schools in Kentucky invited Michelle Cooper of the AIM Pregnancy Support Center to speak with 8th grade health classes at Northern and Southern middle schools all about “sex, STDs and abortion.”

    The problem is that AIM is a Christian organization. And even though Cooper is listed on the group’s website as a “Medical Team Supervisor,” she has no medical training. And she freely boasted about how she “was FREE to talk about how amazing God is! Minds were changed today concerning abortion!!!!”

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    Now the Freedom From Religion Foundation is calling for more details about why this partnership occurred and demanding the District put a stop to it. No students should be taught about health education from an unlicensed ministry leader with no qualifications and a very clear right-wing agenda.

    Inviting a self-described Christian ministry to hijack public school health classes in furtherance of its evangelistic agenda is not only a grave injury to your students’ education, but a plain violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment,” [FFRF Legal Fellow Colin] McNamara wrote to Superintendent Patrick Richardson.

    FFRF also pointed out the troubling history of crisis pregnancy centers commandeering public schools to proselytize to students and the constitutional concerns with such tactics.
    “Public schools exist to educate; CPCs like AIM exist to indoctrinate — by AIM’s own admission, they did not come to the district’s middle schools to teach sex education, but so that ‘minds would be changed concerning abortion,’” McNamara added. “The district can play no part in helping a private religious organization gain access to other people’s children to further their evangelism.”


    Finally, FFRF addresses the danger that results from denying students comprehensive, science-based sex education in favor of widely discredited religious rhetoric.


    “It is wildly irresponsible for these public schools to allow members of a faith-based anti-abortion ministry access to impressionable students,” said FFRF Co-President Annie Laurie Gaylor. “This infiltration of church dogma into Kentucky classrooms senselessly endangers the health of students and must stop.”

    Incidentally, AIM isn’t even a healthcare provider. They offer pregnancy tests, ultrasounds, and a Bible Study. No medical professionals work there. Their stated goal is to offer “the gospel of Jesus Christ in both word and deed to men and women dealing with pregnancy.”
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    Is it really Christian to misrepresent oneself and dupe others so as to illegally push an agenda?

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  2. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    I vote: No.
     
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  3. KenS

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    JUST HORRIBLE!

    NO... NO.... NO...

    We should teach them about being a drag queen:

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    Some Parents Outraged After Drag Queen Speaks At School Career Day

    And ABORTIONS WITHOUT PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT - or sex ed by our friendly neighborhood abortion mill PLANNED PARENTHOOD:

    Planned Parenthood-Friendly Sex-Ed Mandate Passes Massachusetts Senate | NewBostonPost

    New Jersey
    • No parental involvement required.
    New Mexico
    • No parental involvement required.
    New York
    • No parental involvement required.


    OF COURSE, taught by people who are not psychologist - it is just you and your doctor!????????.



    Yes... AND INDOCTRINATE 2ND GRADERS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY.

    California Brings Gay History Into The Classroom

    But Heaven forbid we talk about Pregnancy support choices (secular and religious)
     
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  4. shmogie

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    Of course not.

    What if an MD, a board certified gynecologist, who is a Christian, spoke to the class, and simply mentioned he was a Christian, nothing more ?

    The same people would be running to court slobbering at the mouth and whining.

    Why ? Because their goal is the obliteration of Christianity, and using the bogus legal argument of a ¨wall΅ between church and state, they think they can accomplish their goal.

    It is a pretty sad state of affairs when a teacher can make known they are a homosexual, but another teacher is afraid of backlash if they mention they are a Christian.

    Again, in this case, this group was dead wrong in doing what they did.
     
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  5. shmogie

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    Truly sickening.
     
  6. Skwim

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    You do have a reading problem, don't you. ;)

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  7. Shadow Wolf

    Shadow Wolf Crazy Diamond

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    Abraham lied about Sarah being his sister. He was not the one who was punished for deception, but rather the decieved were punished because they acted on a lie they didn't know was a lie and wouldn't have had they known.
     
  8. dybmh

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    Well.... there's a loophole on that specific circumstance. If I remember.
     
  9. Shadow Wolf

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    He showed up, said they needed to lie, gave his bs excuses to justify it, and the innocent were punished.
     
  10. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
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    It was deceptive, but not a lie.
     
  11. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    I have no objection to religious people speaking to students, in their classroom, provided just two things: that they fully disclose who they are, and that everything that they say is restricted to areas within their competence.

    I object to anything done under false pretences, especially when the innocent young are the targets. And I think it is especially despicable for those who claim to be spreading their "religious truth," to resort to lies to do so. There's a word for that....the "H" word. And it isn't "hateful."
     
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  12. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    How was it not a lie?
     
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    There is no such distinction. When you lie to someone, it is to deceive them. When you deceive someone, you lied to them. And he did willfully and knowingly lie to people with the goal and intention of deceiving them.
     
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    How do you get to teach a class without proper qualifications?
    Over here you have to get a Blue Card (background check) just to be a teacher’s aide. I think even the office ladies have to be vetted before they’re allowed on campus.

    Baring false witness, indeed.
     
  15. dybmh

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    She was his half-sister.
     
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    This is explained in the commentary. Whether or not a person believes it is less important than this:

    On exploring the commentary on these verses, an Orthodox Jewish person is not encouraged to lie.
     
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    Its still a lie because we was not honest with them, and his deception caused problems for others. There is no justifying that. He lied, others paid the price.
     
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    We have what the texts say: he lied, others were punished.
     
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    Appears to be.
     
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    If what happened is how you described it, and the story that is taught to children is how you describe it, then I cannot argue. You are right.
     
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