End Humanitarian Crisis w/Border Security Barrier!

[Salvador]

Migrant deaths along the Mexico–United States border - Wikipedia

There's a moral obligation to erect a steel slated border security barrier, in order to end the 200 to 300 migrant deaths each year that happen while there are migrants trying to cross into the United States from Mexico; if there were a wall, these migrants would give up trying to go across the border, consequently, these people would stay put and not risk their lives coming to America.

President Trump tweets his love for Hispanics, maybe it's time for a steel slated border security barrier that shows our entire nation does indeed care for the lives of Hispanics by keeping them stay put in Mexico by a wall rather than having them risk their lives getting lost without provisions in the open desert wilderness near the U.S.-Mexico border.

 

[Quintessence]

Do you also consider the moral imperative to be respectful of the non-human persons we share this planet with? Will you make wildlife crossings every mile to accocunt for them so some of the T/E species in this ecoregion do not go extinct?

 

[Stanyon]

Hopefully Trumps extended olive branch will allow the doves of peace to enter the hearts of those who have hardened themselves and oppose him on selfish political grounds instead of supporting his humanitarian goals.
#releasethefunds

 

[Salvador]

Do you also consider the moral imperative to be respectful of the non-human persons we share this planet with? Will you make wildlife crossings every mile to accocunt for them so some of the T/E species in this ecoregion do not go extinct?

1. We should object to the term "non-human persons, cause non-human animals aren't persons. Right? 2. A steel slated barrier structure would not impact wild life, cause wild life, unlike people, could squeeze through the openings of the steel barrier slats without getting stuck. Right?

 

[Valjean]

Perhaps if there weren't already hundreds of miles of existing border wall at safe crossing points, immigrants wouldn't have to attempt hazardous crossings through remote, barren deserts.

 

[LuisDantas]

This poll badly needs more options. Both of the existing ones are dripping fantasy.

 

[Salvador]

Perhaps if there weren't already hundreds of miles of existing border wall at safe crossing points, immigrants wouldn't have to attempt hazardous crossings through remote, barren deserts.

Allowing criminals and drugs across open borders into the U.S. from Mexico would create an even worse humanitarian crisis than that of migrant deaths happening from the status-quo situation.

 

[Valjean]

1. We should object to the term "non-human persons, cause non-human animals aren't persons. Right? 2. A steel slated barrier structure would not impact wild life, cause wild life, unlike people, could squeeze through the openings of the steel barrier slats without getting stuck. Right?

No. Large animals, too, need to migrate through.
I can squeeze through a 25 cm opening pretty easily, and I'm a 70 kg man.

How close do you propose placing these "slats," so as to allow, say, a large desert tortoise or desert bighorn to walk through yet exclude a 50 or 60 kg human?

 

[Salvador]

No. Large animals, too, need to migrate through.
I can squeeze through a 25 cm opening pretty easily, and I'm a 70 kg man.

How close do you propose placing these "slats," so as to allow, say, a large desert tortoise or desert bighorn to walk through yet exclude a 50 or 60 kg human?

Some large sized non-flight, non-burrowing, non-climber species are gonna have to adapt to a new ground environment, or go extinct; this happens in nature all the time. The most important thing I'm concern with is the safety and lives of human beings.

 

[Valjean]

Allowing criminals and drugs across open borders into the U.S. from Mexico would create an even worse humanitarian crisis than that of migrant deaths happening from the status-quo situation.

Then how come we haven't noticed this "crisis" till now, considering it's been going on for 30 years?
Immigration is way down. More "illegal aliens" are leaving the US than entering, and almost all the drug traffic is coming through ports-of-entry in cars and trucks, or offloaded from ships.
9 facts you should know about the border before Trump addresses the nation

 

[Stanyon]

If we look to some of the last few weeks headlines on the crisis on the border and children's deaths due to underfunded immigration enforcement and the pending investigations into them, it would seem heartless for anyone to deny funding for the wall and supporting services, not only heartless but a hateful willful ignorance.

 

[columbus]

There's a moral obligation to erect a steel slated border security barrier, in order to end the 200 to 300 migrant deaths each year that happen while there are migrants trying to cross into the United States from Mexico;

Walling out a humanitarian disaster isn't ending it.
US policies have contributed hugely to the many humanitarian disasters in Central America. How about we deal with those policies?
Tom

 

[Stanyon]

Then how come we haven't noticed this "crisis" till now

It's not a crisis if Trump says it is but it is a crisis if a news outlet blames Trump for migrant children's deaths, that is how it works.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Allowing criminals and drugs across open borders into the U.S. from Mexico would create an even worse humanitarian crisis than that of migrant deaths happening from the status-quo situation.

Apparently, most drugs are smuggled across the border at legal ports of entry, so a wall isn't going to do much about that.

Meth, cocaine, heroin: Most gets smuggled through ports of entry. A wall won't stop it.

 

[Stanyon]

Apparently, most drugs are smuggled across the border at legal ports of entry, so a wall isn't going to do much about that.

Meth, cocaine, heroin: Most gets smuggled through ports of entry. A wall won't stop it.

Drugs won't stop, there is too much money and corrupt officials involved in it but giving more funding and personnel may help stem the flow of drugs.

Mexico drug cartel's grip on politicians and police revealed in Texas court files | World news | The Guardian

 

[Salvador]

Apparently, most drugs are smuggled across the border at legal ports of entry, so a wall isn't going to do much about that.

Meth, cocaine, heroin: Most gets smuggled through ports of entry. A wall won't stop it.

There's a far better chance illegal drugs will get caught and confiscated at a port of entry than intercepted by authorities having to patrol against drug traffickers operating with the wide-open scope of an open border.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Walling out a humanitarian disaster isn't ending it.
US policies have contributed hugely to the many humanitarian disasters in Central America. How about we deal with those policies?
Tom

I'm all for invading Honduras and eliminating the cause of the migrations.

 

[SkepticThinker]

There's a far better chance illegal drugs will get caught and confiscated at a port of entry than intercepted by authorities having to patrol against drug traffickers operating with the wide-open scope of an open border.

Yes, because that's where the drugs are being brought in - through legal ports of entry. How does a wall help with that?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Drugs won't stop, there is too much money and corrupt officials involved in it but giving more funding and personnel may help stem the flow of drugs.

Mexico drug cartel's grip on politicians and police revealed in Texas court files | World news | The Guardian

My question was in regards to how a wall is going to stop drug flow at legal ports of entry, which is where the vast majority of them have been coming in.

 

[columbus]

I'm all for invading Honduras and eliminating the cause of the migrations.

How American.
"Let's try more violence! Maybe it will work this time."

I am not being as viciously sarcastic as you might think. I'm a little afraid that Trump will do something like this in the lead up to the 2020 elections.
Tom