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Embrace all

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Embrace all religions but follow one.

What do i mean by this? You follow the religion/spiritual teaching you find more right for you, but embrace all human beings and their religion and belief as they are your brother or sister.
The time for finding fault in others belief is fading, and we are in need for finding the fault within our self so we can change to become who we want others to see. We do not have time to find fault in others as long we are not flawless our self.

But what we can do to help others is to ask them question.
Why say, YOUR BELIEF IS WRONG BECAUSE OF........
When we could say i see your religion say this....... so i have a question to you.
 
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Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Embrace all religions but follow one.

What do i mean by this? You follow the religion/spiritual teaching you find more right for you, but embrace all human beings and their religion and belief as they are your brother or sister.
The time for finding fault in others belief is fading, and we are in need for finding the fault within our self so we can change to become who we others to see. We do not have time to find fault in others as long we are not flawless our self.

But what we can do to help others is to ask them question.
Why say, YOUR BELIEF IS WRONG BECAUSE OF........
When we could say i see your religion say this....... so i have a question to you.

This is very true. We are responsible for one life and one life only. If we become overly preoccupied with how our brother is ploughing then our own furrow becomes crooked.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
but embrace all human beings and their religion and belief as they are your brother or sister.
I don't waste kindness on those who do not deserve it, and very clearly not everyone is interested in being your brother or sister. Those who want me dead, those who want to have a right to discriminate against me, those who can't mind their own business, they are not my brothers or sisters and I won't pretend they are.
And no one embraces all human beings and beliefs. We may try to act cute and innocent and pretend we do, but facts are all of us have our various prejudices and bigotries (mine tends to be against Conservative religious views) - this isn't a matter of psychological projection but a matter of psychology 101.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Why say, YOUR BELIEF IS WRONG BECAUSE OF........
When we could say i see your religion say this.......
Because as a teacher corrects a child's maths, same applies with some of the equations people put forward...

We need more disciplined teachers, as not everyone has read, "how to win friends and influence people", and thus they literally don't know how to communicate well, to put their points across politely.

There needs to be far more emphasis in schools in social skills, and less on academic brilliance; such as basics like communicating with compassion.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I don't waste kindness on those who do not deserve it, and very clearly not everyone is interested in being your brother or sister. Those who want me dead, those who want to have a right to discriminate against me, those who can't mind their own business, they are not my brothers or sisters and I won't pretend they are.
And no one embraces all human beings and beliefs. We may try to act cute and innocent and pretend we do, but facts are all of us have our various prejudices and bigotries (mine tends to be against Conservative religious views) - this isn't a matter of psychological projection but a matter of psychology 101.
The acceptance of all human beings is not always easy because there is a lot of horrible things that happen in our world this days, but i would say to be able to forgive, to respect and to embrace all people take many years of cultivating the mind. Not everyone want or maybe can forgive something, that is clear from how the world has become.

But to not hate, to not want ill will toward others is a choice, and when the knowledge of why we react as we do become visible to us, then there is no longer a search for faults in others, then it is only the way of looking inward.

If you as a person do not wish to forgive or accept other people as they are, that is your choice. but that does not mean others can not forgive you or embrace who you are
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
but i would say to be able to forgive, to respect and to embrace all people take many years of cultivating the mind.
Anyone who claims to embrace all people is either a liar or doesn't comprehend the totality of such a statement (truly, are you going to embrace an ISIS member who will kill you if you don't defend yourself?).
If you as a person do not wish to forgive or accept other people as they are, that is your choice. but that does not mean others can not forgive you or embrace who you are
It's not that I can't forgive or accept others. I respect people until they give me a reason to no longer do so. Once this happens I won't pretend things are ok, nor will I pretend to embrace all people. Rather, I will admit I won't waste such things on people who have no interest in giving them. I'd much rather invest those emotions in people I care about, who themselves aren't treating others poorly.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Anyone who claims to embrace all people is either a liar or doesn't comprehend the totality of such a statement (truly, are you going to embrace an ISIS member who will kill you if you don't defend yourself?).

It's not that I can't forgive or accept others. I respect people until they give me a reason to no longer do so. Once this happens I won't pretend things are ok, nor will I pretend to embrace all people. Rather, I will admit I won't waste such things on people who have no interest in giving them. I'd much rather invest those emotions in people I care about, who themselves aren't treating others poorly.
Yes i would embrace also the IS fighter, because what he/she lack in his or her life is love, careing and compassion, that is the only way to turn a evil doer in to a doer of good. I am not afraid of their guns or their knifes I can sit down and talk to anyone, i dont judge the person as person. But i can disagree with their action, words and thoughts
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Embrace all religions but follow one.

What do i mean by this? You follow the religion/spiritual teaching you find more right for you, but embrace all human beings and their religion and belief as they are your brother or sister.
The time for finding fault in others belief is fading, and we are in need for finding the fault within our self so we can change to become who we want others to see. We do not have time to find fault in others as long we are not flawless our self.

But what we can do to help others is to ask them question.
Why say, YOUR BELIEF IS WRONG BECAUSE OF........
When we could say i see your religion say this....... so i have a question to you.

While this is a lovely sentiment, there are those religions that teach that theirs is the One True Relgion™ and that all other religions are wrong, and that those that follow other religions must either be converted or tortured/put to death. There are greater issues in this world than the concern for hurt feelings because one criticizes another's religion. Religious intolerance is a thing.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Embrace all religions but follow one.

I concur, but for different reasons than you elucidated. When you follow one religion, it strengthens yourself and that religion. It's similar to specialisation. Would we really have the breakthroughs in science today if everyone tried to study everything? Narrow concentrated religions allow for strength, just as a magnifying glass can be used to start a fire by concentrating the energy. This does not mean that there can't be several magnifying glasses operating simultaneously. So it doesn't mean we can't get along with other faiths, just that we leave them alone about religion. Let each do their own thing, and encourage all to be strong.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
While this is a lovely sentiment, there are those religions that teach that theirs is the One True Relgion™ and that all other religions are wrong, and that those that follow other religions must either be converted or tortured/put to death. There are greater issues in this world than the concern for hurt feelings because one criticizes another's religion. Religious intolerance is a thing.
If you tae away those things that seem to be negative in a religion and look at the good, the moraly good things, every religion is Good. can it be human beings them self that misunderstood the teachings/traslated the wrong words?

Example holy wars has nothing to do with war on other people, it has nothing to do with war toward others, it is the battle within one self that it talk about, but that is forgotten today. Now they use this holy war toward others and destroy peace and compassion.

The war within one self is to let go of ego and attachments, and become like God. But what they to today is going futher away from God.

From Islam Jihad means not Holy war as it is often translated to, it actually mean struggle or struggle within
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
And this is also where I'm coming from, but I also include embracing atheists and agnostics as probably most of us will question our own beliefs at times.

Of course we should embrace them as well because atheism is a religion.

*ducks*
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
And this is also where I'm coming from, but I also include embracing atheists and agnostics as probably most of us will question our own beliefs at times.
Folks who don't wear their religious views on their sleeves do better at spreading goodwill I think. You can work in a workplace that never discusses religion, and after 10 years, someone might ask, "BTW, what religion are you?" in some casual conversation. Having had a long, productive, and cordial relationship with that person, when they say, "I'm a atheist," that in itself can turn an anti-atheist.

This happened to me quite regularly, both with Hinduism, and with vegetarianism. Basically nobody knew, and if and when they did find out, I'd get odd approving looks. So it helps to shut up about it already.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes i would embrace also the IS fighter, because what he/she lack in his or her life is love, careing and compassion, that is the only way to turn a evil doer in to a doer of good. I am not afraid of their guns or their knifes I can sit down and talk to anyone, i dont judge the person as person. But i can disagree with their action, words and thoughts
You will try and you will die in an extremely futile manner. Let's put this to the test.
Let's say someone breaks into your house to murder your family. Will you hug and embrace that person ? Then what? He will simply kill you and then kill your family.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If you tae away those things that seem to be negative in a religion and look at the good, the moraly good things, every religion is Good. can it be human beings them self that misunderstood the teachings/traslated the wrong words?

Example holy wars has nothing to do with war on other people, it has nothing to do with war toward others, it is the battle within one self that it talk about, but that is forgotten today. Now they use this holy war toward others and destroy peace and compassion.

The war within one self is to let go of ego and attachments, and become like God. But what they to today is going futher away from God.

From Islam Jihad means not Holy war as it is often translated to, it actually mean struggle or struggle within
It means both. That is crystal clear from the Quran.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Folks who don't wear their religious views on their sleeves do better at spreading goodwill I think. You can work in a workplace that never discusses religion, and after 10 years, someone might ask, "BTW, what religion are you?" in some casual conversation. Having had a long, productive, and cordial relationship with that person, when they say, "I'm a atheist," that in itself can turn an anti-atheist.

This happened to me quite regularly, both with Hinduism, and with vegetarianism. Basically nobody knew, and if and when they did find out, I'd get odd approving looks. So it helps to shut up about it already.
It sorta reminds me of the former atheist Malcolm Muggeridge's statement that Mother Theresa probably converted more to Christianity by not proselytizing but by being an example of selfless dedication in the helping of others.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
You will try and you will die in an extremely futile manner. Let's put this to the test.
Let's say someone breaks into your house to murder your family. Will you hug and embrace that person ? Then what? He will simply kill you and then kill your family.
I would try to get my family out of the house, but as you say, if they was killed, would i forgive the person who do it? Yes i would do. I could not get my family back even i got mad or killed that man, i would still be without family. so even it would hurt a lot, i can not do anything else then forgive.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I would try to get my family out of the house, but as you say, if they was killed, would i forgive the person who do it? Yes i would do. I could not get my family back even i got mad or killed that man, i would still be without family. so even it would hurt a lot, i can not do anything else then forgive.
No, the question I was asking is would you consider violence as an option, of last resort, to defend the lives of your family?
Vengeance is futile and pointless, that I would agree. But people who intentionally hurt and kill others need to be prosecuted and jailed for their crimes. Or do you believe consequence free social system?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
No, the question I was asking is would you consider violence as an option, of last resort, to defend the lives of your family?
Vengeance is futile and pointless, that I would agree. But people who intentionally hurt and kill others need to be prosecuted and jailed for their crimes. Or do you believe consequence free social system?
The person who would do this toward me or my family would ofcourse be taken by the police, and the system in the country would take care of the punishment they feel is right for the action done.
I would protect my family with my own body , but i would not kill or harm the person who try harming me, if i could i would keep the person busy until my fianceè could get out of the house,
but i have no need to harm others.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
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The person who would do this toward me or my family would ofcourse be taken by the police, and the system in the country would take care of the punishment they feel is right for the action done.
I would protect my family with my own body , but i would not kill or harm the person who try harming me, if i could i would keep the person busy until my fianceè could get out of the house,
but i have no need to harm others.
I would not be so pacifist. I see no reason to. I am simply hiding behind the police who are going to use force to disarm and incarcerate the violent perpetrator.

The Buddha Taught Nonviolence, Not Pacifism

Absolute nonviolence is only for Buddhist monastics and is not recommended for others.
 
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