Electrify America Charging Is about to Get More Expensive

[We Never Know]

As more use it, the higher it will get. More demand = higher costs.

Electrify America Charging Is about to Get More Expensive

• It'll be more expensive to charge at Electrify America stations starting on March 6.
• The company is raising its per-kilowatt-hour and per-minute prices—varied by location—by up to 5 cents.
• Pass+ members who pay $4 per month for discounted rates will also be impacted by EA's upcoming price hikes.

"Get ready to pay more money when connecting to one of the thousands of Electrify America chargers scattered across the country. The company is raising rates up to 5 cents for its per-kilowatt-hour and per-minute charging options—which vary based on location—starting on March 6.

People who have a Pass membership as well as guests who aren't members will see the price for a per-kilowatt-hour session jump from 43 cents to 48 cents. Meanwhile, that same group will see prices in states that require per-minute charging also increase by 5 cents from 32 to 37 cents. That's the price hike for fast-charging speeds up to 350 kW; the rate rises 3 pennies from 16 to 19 cents for those charging at speeds of 90 kW or less."

Electrify America Charging Is about to Get More Expensive

 

[Viker]

It's not that significant of an increase. People still pay more at the old timey pump , on average. The expansion of these stations aren't going to pay for themselves. Typically, higher demand lowers costs, especially when supply exceeds demand. In this case, customers are taking an increase to pay for more stations as the demand is exceeding supply.

How Does the Law of Supply and Demand Affect Prices?.

 

[We Never Know]

It's not that significant of an increase. People still pay more at the old timey pump , on average. The expansion of these stations aren't going to pay for themselves. Typically, higher demand lowers costs, especially when supply exceeds demand. In this case, customers are taking an increase to pay for more stations as the demand is exceeding supply.

How Does the Law of Supply and Demand Affect Prices?.

Electric vehicles more expensive to fuel than gas-powered cars at end of 2022: consulting firm

"For the first time in more than a year, owners of traditional gas-powered cars saved more money at the pump than those driving their electric counterparts, according to a consulting firm.

As inflated gas prices came down at the end of last years, the fuel cost for most Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicles was comparatively cheaper in the final quarter of 2022 than charging an electric vehicle (EV), analysts with the Anderson Economic Group (AEG) said.

The cost to drive 100 miles in a gas-powered car dropped by more than $2 in October, November and December 2022. And with electricity prices rising last year, mid-priced ICE cars became more economical than EV cars for the first time in 18 months, the firm said."

https://www-foxbusiness-com.cdn.amp...uel-gas-powered-cars-end-2022-consulting-firm

 

[Viker]

Electric vehicles more expensive to fuel than gas-powered cars at end of 2022: consulting firm

"For the first time in more than a year, owners of traditional gas-powered cars saved more money at the pump than those driving their electric counterparts, according to a consulting firm.

As inflated gas prices came down at the end of last years, the fuel cost for most Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicles was comparatively cheaper in the final quarter of 2022 than charging an electric vehicle (EV), analysts with the Anderson Economic Group (AEG) said.

The cost to drive 100 miles in a gas-powered car dropped by more than $2 in October, November and December 2022. And with electricity prices rising last year, mid-priced ICE cars became more economical than EV cars for the first time in 18 months, the firm said."

https://www-foxbusiness-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxbusiness.com/economy/electric-vehicles-more-expensive-fuel-gas-powered-cars-end-2022-consulting-firm.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16773660701064&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/electric-vehicles-more-expensive-fuel-gas-powered-cars-end-2022-consulting-firm

Having a hybrid I didn't notice that, now. I haven't kept up with all the news. Still, it's going to cost to get more electric stations up and running.

 

[Twilight Hue]

As more use it, the higher it will get. More demand = higher costs.

Electrify America Charging Is about to Get More Expensive

• It'll be more expensive to charge at Electrify America stations starting on March 6.
• The company is raising its per-kilowatt-hour and per-minute prices—varied by location—by up to 5 cents.
• Pass+ members who pay $4 per month for discounted rates will also be impacted by EA's upcoming price hikes.

"Get ready to pay more money when connecting to one of the thousands of Electrify America chargers scattered across the country. The company is raising rates up to 5 cents for its per-kilowatt-hour and per-minute charging options—which vary based on location—starting on March 6.

People who have a Pass membership as well as guests who aren't members will see the price for a per-kilowatt-hour session jump from 43 cents to 48 cents. Meanwhile, that same group will see prices in states that require per-minute charging also increase by 5 cents from 32 to 37 cents. That's the price hike for fast-charging speeds up to 350 kW; the rate rises 3 pennies from 16 to 19 cents for those charging at speeds of 90 kW or less."

Electrify America Charging Is about to Get More Expensive

If people deny that the ev and es push will create incredible price gouging and substantial hikes for electricity , they are just plain stupid.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's not that significant of an increase. People still pay more at the old timey pump , on average. The expansion of these stations aren't going to pay for themselves. Typically, higher demand lowers costs, especially when supply exceeds demand. In this case, customers are taking an increase to pay for more stations as the demand is exceeding supply.

How Does the Law of Supply and Demand Affect Prices?.

That's just a honeymoon incentive period until the compulsory mandates kick in to force mass electricity usage.

 

[Father Heathen]

Dancing to the organ grinders of the fossil fuel lobby, I see.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Having a hybrid I didn't notice that, now. I haven't kept up with all the news. Still, it's going to cost to get more electric stations up and running.

Hybrids are at least are better than all electric.

 

[Subduction Zone]

FOX is not exactly the most reliable source when it comes to these sorts of claims. Home charging was about 3.5 times cheaper than gas a year ago if one did just home charging:

How Much Does It Cost to Charge An Electric Vehicle? | EnergySage.

Electricity may have gone up, and for a while gas was lower, but not that much. I think that there has been some cooking of the books at FOX.

 

[Revoltingest]

If people deny that the ev and es push will create incredible price gouging and substantial hikes for electricity , they are just plain stupid.

Gouge too much, & the market shrinks.
So you shouldn't worry.
Things get sorted out, occasional wrinkles not withstanding.

 

[We Never Know]

FOX is not exactly the most reliable source when it comes to these sorts of claims. Home charging was about 3.5 times cheaper than gas a year ago if one did just home charging:

How Much Does It Cost to Charge An Electric Vehicle? | EnergySage.

Electricity may have gone up, and for a while gas was lower, but not that much. I think that there has been some cooking of the books at FOX.

The article(s) clearly state the timeline as 2022’s final quarter. You are moving the goalpost by talking about a year ago.

From Anderson Economic Group
Gas-Powered Cars Cheaper to Fuel than Electric in Late 2022 – Anderson Economic Group

And.... From your favorite site.

Overall, we rate Fox Business Right-Center Biased based on right-leaning opinions regarding free-market economics as well as some strong right-wing bias through certain TV hosts. We also rate them Mostly Factual, rather than High, due to a few false TV hosts’ claims, while the website has not directly failed a fact check.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-business/

 

[Subduction Zone]

The article(s) clearly state the timeline as 2022’s final quarter. You are moving the goalpost by talking about a year ago.

From Anderson Economic Group
Gas-Powered Cars Cheaper to Fuel than Electric in Late 2022 – Anderson Economic Group

And.... From your favorite site.

Overall, we rate Fox Business Right-Center Biased based on right-leaning opinions regarding free-market economics as well as some strong right-wing bias through certain TV hosts. We also rate them Mostly Factual, rather than High, due to a few false TV hosts’ claims, while the website has not directly failed a fact check.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-business/

No, I am not, You do not understand the usage of that phrase. I noted the time difference. I also pointed out that though rates may have changed they have not changed by a factor of 3.5.

They were probably comparing the price that one paid at a charge point for electric to what one paid at the pump. But you can charge an electric vehicle at home. Even at 120 volts the average commuter can top off his car every night and a heavy commuter could top off his car every night at 240 volts. It is still far cheaper, if you charge at home.

 

[rational experiences]

Once Tesla said energy should be free with no charge. I think you misquote him.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Gouge too much, & the market shrinks.
So you shouldn't worry.
Things get sorted out, occasional wrinkles not withstanding.

Like 30 dollar pizzas that are now a reality in my area.

Yea. 30 dollars for a regular 8 slice pie.

 

[F1fan]

Electric vehicles more expensive to fuel than gas-powered cars at end of 2022: consulting firm

"For the first time in more than a year, owners of traditional gas-powered cars saved more money at the pump than those driving their electric counterparts, according to a consulting firm.

As inflated gas prices came down at the end of last years, the fuel cost for most Internal Combustion Engine (ICE) vehicles was comparatively cheaper in the final quarter of 2022 than charging an electric vehicle (EV), analysts with the Anderson Economic Group (AEG) said.

The cost to drive 100 miles in a gas-powered car dropped by more than $2 in October, November and December 2022. And with electricity prices rising last year, mid-priced ICE cars became more economical than EV cars for the first time in 18 months, the firm said."

https://www-foxbusiness-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxbusiness.com/economy/electric-vehicles-more-expensive-fuel-gas-powered-cars-end-2022-consulting-firm.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw==#amp_tf=From %1$s&aoh=16773660701064&referrer=https://www.google.com&ampshare=https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/electric-vehicles-more-expensive-fuel-gas-powered-cars-end-2022-consulting-firm

"Consulting firm" is a bit of a red flag. And for FOX Business?

 

[Revoltingest]

QUOTE="Twilight Hue, post: 8047506, member: 17642"]Like 30 dollar pizzas that are now a reality in my area.

Yea. 30 dollars for a regular 8 slice pie.[/QUOTE]
You need to move.
They’re much cheaper here.
What’s your topping…caviar?

 

[Estro Felino]

If there were less cars, electricity would suffice for them all.

 

[PureX]

Typically, higher demand lowers costs, especially when supply exceeds demand.

Not in any universe that I am aware of.

 

[We Never Know]

No, I am not, You do not understand the usage of that phrase. I noted the time difference. I also pointed out that though rates may have changed they have not changed by a factor of 3.5.

They were probably comparing the price that one paid at a charge point for electric to what one paid at the pump. But you can charge an electric vehicle at home. Even at 120 volts the average commuter can top off his car every night and a heavy commuter could top off his car every night at 240 volts. It is still far cheaper, if you charge at home.

"Its not me, its you" your favorite most used false claim

I noticed you didn't dispute the fact checker link

Have you checked to see how long it takes to charge an EV on 120v?

 

[Subduction Zone]

"Its not me, its you" your favorite most used false claim

I noticed you didn't dispute the fact checker link

Have you checked to see how long it takes to charge an EV on 120v?

Did I need to? FOX could have been "honest" if they used the strategy that I gave to you. You may nave not known this but charge points have to make money too. They cannot do so by selling electricity for the same price that they pay for it. It has always been cheaper to charge at home. People are paying for the convenience of a charge that is much faster than they can get at home.

Electric cars would still be cheaper if you charge at home.

EDIT: And now you are trying to move the goal posts. The question was not how long it takes to charge at 120 V, since that makes the unjustified assumption of a charge from zero. My claim was that for a moderate consumer it could be topped off every night at 120V. The average American drives less than 30 miles a day:

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/04/qotd-how-far-do-you-typically-drive-each-day/

That is an easy amount to charge over night. Fifty miles would be easy overnight. A heavy commuter might need a 240 V outlet, And he could charge twice that overnight Could you charge from zero overnight even with a 240V? Probably not if you have a longer range car such as a Tesla. But again, I never claimed that a charge from nothing could be accomplished in that time.