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Egypt's President Mursi assumes sweeping powers

Discussion in 'Middle Eastern Politics' started by England my lionheart, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. England my lionheart

    England my lionheart Rockerjahili Rebel
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    Worrying times ahead for Egypt,can't say i'm shocked.

    Egypt's President Mohammed Mursi has issued a declaration banning challenges to his decrees, laws and decisions.
    The declaration also says no court can dissolve the constituent assembly, which is drawing up a new constitution.
    President Mursi also sacked the chief prosecutor and ordered the retrial of people accused of attacking protesters when ex-President Mubarak held office.
    Egyptian opposition leader Mohammed ElBaradei accused Mr Mursi of acting like a "new pharaoh".
    In a joint news conference held late on Thursday, Mr ElBaradai and other opposition figures described the declaration as a "coup against legitimacy" and called on Egyptians to take to the streets in protest

    You can read it all here BBC News - Egypt's President Mursi assumes sweeping powers
     
  2. F0uad

    F0uad Well-Known Member

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    Any other source then the BBC?
     
  3. Caladan

    Caladan Agnostic Pantheist

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    From Al Jazeera:

    Link: Egypt opposition calls for million man march http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/201211235363344636.html
     
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  4. F0uad

    F0uad Well-Known Member

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    I think he did that because of the Mubarak-Judges that were still hanging on power. We will see how this turns out in the comming days.
     
  5. Flankerl

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    Oh my who would have thought that it would turn out like this. :D
     
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    Rakhel Honey badger.

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    No one, except member of the Brotherhood, seem to be happy about this.
    Protests are starting up again
    Thousands fill Tahrir on Friday to protest Morsi's new 'dictatorial powers' - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online

    The lower level police are not being retried. which makes for a loyal force.
    Then this in the same article
    The Associated Press: Egypt's Morsi grants himself far-reaching powers


    and this article
    Morsy issues new constitutional declaration - Daily News Egypt
     
  8. Sajdah

    Sajdah Al-Aqsa Is In My Heart.

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    Really? On what basis do you assume such thing?
    To correct your information, many Egyptians who are not members of the brotherhood think that this step should have been taken after the retirement of the Generals...Anyway better late than never...
     
  9. Rakhel

    Rakhel Honey badger.

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    Well let's see rallies in Tarir square with banners banning Muslim Brotherhood from entering. A few independent newspapers with several articles that are decrying Morsi's declaration.
    And we mustn't forget that the EU is proposing to freeze aid to Egypt.
    But, jeepers, I suppose that's not enough for you, huh?
     
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  10. Sajdah

    Sajdah Al-Aqsa Is In My Heart.

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    Certainly some random articles are not enough for me to put such conclusion, especially if they were untrusted sources to me...But it is different for you, that's why I asked about your sources and I thought you might refer to a poll or something to show us how many brotherhood members are happy in Egypt !!
     
  11. Lady B

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    In all due respect: Morsi made the decree for genuine reasons, He just went the wrong way about it. The post Mubarik councels that were still in the judicial system were thwarting his every move towards Egyptian goals. So he made this decree temporarily untill the constitution is finished. I think he even forgets his past alliances and blindly assumed the people would be with him. The people are scared of a dictatorship and should be after the last 30 years, But I do not believe Morsi is intending this at all at this point and if this is his true ambitions, I trust the people of Egypt will never allow it to come now that they have tasted what freedom of speech and the rights to demonstrate can do for them and their country. Many think the Muslim Brotherhood is in majority in Egypt, it is not, The Majority wants to be free to work, earn good income, worship their God and provide for their families without extremism and without big goverment. God Bless them all.
     
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  12. jazzymom

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    He wants an islamist country and he is no better then a dictator. All secular Egyptians who want a democratic country should be very scared.
     
  13. YmirGF

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    It certainly never occurred to me... No, actually, I'm just kidding. How interesting that the Egyptian people have elected themselves a dictator. How terribly progressive of them. :rolleyes:
     
  14. apophenia

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    I also note that this came two days after discussions with Hilary Clinton.
     
  15. Father Heathen

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    Called it.

    I knew that they would only end up replacing one dictatorship with another.

    Mixing government with religion is always a recipe for tyranny. Unfortunately religion is an easy sell to an ignorant electorate.
     
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  16. Debater Slayer

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    To clarify a few things, the measure adopted by President Morsi is supposed to be only a temporary one until the new constitution is implemented. Supposedly, he assumed extra powers for the time being to prevent the prosecutor who supports the previous regime as well as judges from taking steps to impede progress from being made by the new regime. In other words, those measures aren't meant to be permanent; they've been put into effect for a special 'emergency' situation.

    Many Egyptian people who don't belong to the Muslim Brotherhood support his decision as well, because they see it as a way to stop judges who aligned themselves with the previous regime from obstructing the work of the current government any further.

    As for the Egyptian people electing Morsi over the other candidates, I think it was more like picking the lesser of evils — the others were apparently not much better, some of them being (much) worse. The person who was running against him in the final round of elections, for example, strongly supported the previous regime and has many lawsuits filed against him for partaking in planning to kill protesters during the revolution.
     
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  17. Lady B

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    Are you talking about Sabahy or Shafiek? Sabahy would have been a good choice IMO, Shafiek was in alliance with the salifi sect and also the previous regime, I agree they chose the lesser of evils and wanted to be as far away from Mubarik as possible,But they did knowingly elect a Muslim brotherhood afilliate and now when he seems to use power to put sharia law in full effect they protest.

    I agree Morsy's original intent in doing this was a temporary solution to a problem and has said as much,But many have feared this monster under their beds for a long time and now see threats it will come to pass. In this last leak of constitutional debates within the administration, they put forth the decree that all porn will be banned from coming into Egypt. I guess some people in the judicial system think people should have the right to choose and not govt. Wouldn't it be a hoot if this whole decree and protests were about seeing who did Dallas....... Just kidding, but seriously The Coptics and liberals have abandoned their influence in creating this new constitution because they feel overpowered by the Muslim bro's influence and many worry this is just the next step in complete control. Many of my close Egyptian friends have said no way will Egyptians allow Islamic rule to be implemented, hmmmmmmm, sure does happen everywhere else in the middle east, why not Egypt? :shrug:
     
  18. Flankerl

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    Oh my... i know a rather prominent dictator of the 20th century who said exactly the same thing. :D



    Yeah i know i just pulled a godwin. :p
     
  19. F0uad

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    Go troll somewhere else.
     
  20. F0uad

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    That party is chosen in the elections so it is the majority, the main slogan of the Broterhood was limited and small goverment also there viewpoints are not extreme in anyway.

    Your whole idea that Egypt is going to become a state with Sharia is laughable there were already certain laws that are based on the Sharia in it when Mubarak was in office. The Broterhood does want to work towards a more Islamic state but they are not changing anything about the system.
     
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