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Featured Egyptian and Jewish exodus what proof?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Riders, May 10, 2017.

  1. Riders

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    There is something written along time ago saying they were male Hebrew slaves, but it probably wasnt female and children slaves. My understanding from the church was the whole of all Hebrews were slaves. There is also something to suggest that some Hebrew slaves were let go after 6 or 7 years of work. They also had debt slaves, who were let go after the debt was paid.
     
  2. Jayhawker Soule

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    Where?
     
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  3. roger1440

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    By today’s standards portions of the story of the exodus of the Jews may be politically incorrect, but the story wasn’t written in the 21 century. It was written around the 4th century BC. That is around 2400 years ago. It must be read from the mind set of Jews of that period, not with 21 century thinking. In modern times what is considered politically incorrect has changed in a short period of time. A good example is the book classic Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain written in the year 1884. The book uses the term “******”. If that book was written in the 21 century more than likely Mark Twain would have a hard time getting it published. If the story of the exodus of the Jews were written in the 21 century it would probably use different metaphors, symbols and side stories but the message would still be the same. That message would be that God will redeem what belongs to him. He will protect, provide for and guide what is his.
     
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    So you believe that Exodus wasn't written with a 21st Century audience in mind?
     
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    THAT is the "message" you get? Wow.

    I have read the story of Exodus at least 100 times--likely more-- (I used to teach sunday school, back in the day).

    And I got a lot of messages from that passage-- but "god will redeem" isn't one of them!

    It simply does not fly--- they are "rescued" from high civilization (of that day) into a barren desert to nearly starve, nearly die of dehydration and are DELIBERATELY miss guided in their journey for 40 years!

    That is a whole new level of malice and deliberate torture!
     
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    By murdering any and all who happen to be in the way..... !!

    Oh! I nearly forgot-- the virgin women get a pass from being brutally murdered; they "get" to be sex slaves instead.

    Talk about playing Special Favorites -- immoral beyond measure.

    Even a 3 year old understands how UNFAIR that playing Special Favorites is...!

    Think about that: a 3 year old is MORE MORAL THAN THE GOD OF EXODUS.
     
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    Nice try but comparing Gods murdering million innocent children cannot be compared to MArks TWain use of the N word. That's ridiculous. So if the story of the Exodus wasn't written with us in mind ,we don't need to be reading it.
     
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  8. roger1440

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    Quote the Bible where it says God murdered millions of innocent children.
     
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    The first born son of every egyptian
     
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    Quote the verse that uses the word "murder".
     
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    Hello? Noah Flood myth-- where the biblegod murders ALL the babies in the world.

    All.

    The.

    Babies-- none were taken on the ark, so they ALL died a brutal death.

    As did ALL THE KITTENS. And PUPPIES.

    And BUTTERFLIES.

    And baby Kola Bears.

    The bible's god is kind of an <expletive>
     
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    Damn! You really got me with the 'Kola Bears' (sic). :(
     
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    Your God did kill hundreds and thousands of first born Egyptian children with deliberate intent. Correct? You do not consider slaughtering children to be a heinous crime? All of the other plagues are also grotesque crimes against humanity allegedly perpetrated by this God, but this one stands out.
     
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    Seriously, what, in your opinion, is the value of this type of polemic?
     
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    Because you guys have been asking what is the great moral lesson from this story, obviously there isn't any. I don't see any good in the Exodus story.
     
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    Where did I ask such a thing? @Riders, childishly making things up is a poor substitute for thinking.
     
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    Roger1440 did and I said it in reply to this.

    By today’s standards portions of the story of the exodus of the Jews may be politically incorrect, but the story wasn’t written in the 21 century. It was written around the 4th century BC. That is around 2400 years ago. It must be read from the mind set of Jews of that period, not with 21 century thinking. In modern times what is considered politically incorrect has changed in a short period of time. A good example is the book classic Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain written in the year 1884. The book uses the term “******”. If that book was written in the 21 century more than likely Mark Twain would have a hard time getting it published. If the story of the exodus of the Jews were written in the 21 century it would probably use different metaphors, symbols and side stories but the message would still be the same. That message would be that God will redeem what belongs to him. He will protect, provide for and guide what is his


    So it was said that it has a good message and it does not. This is what I'm responding too.
     
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    I didn't make it up, as I said that came from Roger1440............
     
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    So truthfully, you have stepped in here to replies that originally from Roger1440, it makes sense if you look at what he said.

    The value of this talk and thinking is that it answers the question statement Roger made about Mark Twin, your butting in trying to make something different out of it.

    Keep up and if you don't understand something ask don't accuse, we were speaking to someone different not you. I personally think you got in the middle of this to mess the conversation up.
     
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    In your own words can you give a brief description of the exodus story? In other words, what is it about? Who said anything about a “great moral lesson”?
     
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