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Egypt: Misogyny and Sexual Assault in "Revolutionary" Celebrations

Discussion in 'Middle Eastern Politics' started by Debater Slayer, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. Debater Slayer

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    During so-called "revolutionary" celebrations in Egypt's Tahrir Square, several cases of sexual assault have been reported, with more almost certainly happening but not being reported.

    One of the victims has been said to be a niqabi woman, whom some people have tried to justify the assault against because of her supposed affiliation with Islamists.

    And to further cast light on the problem of misogyny and sexual assault apologetics—albeit inadvertently—a news anchor made the following comment regarding the incidents:

    Source of both excerpts.

    I'm firmly convinced that no change of government will be able to noticeably reform the country as long as people, especially women, are not protected from such blatant crimes and apologetics attempting to justify them. When sexual assault against a woman is defended by some people on the basis that she is aligned with Islamism or any other political or religious ideology, it seems clear to me that the problem is far greater than who is or isn't in charge of the government.
     
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    I remember there were also two female western reporters who were raped.
     
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    It's a good thing there's no connection to religious ideology!
     
  4. MysticSang'ha

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    Typical of feminists. You all are only focused on what happens to women, and don't care what happens to men. Oh, and don't say "misogyny" around here. There are men who take it personally and don't like feminists like you saying it.

    /sarcasm

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    Oh wait....I'm not done with the mockery of sentiments that argue against rape culture...

    Well at least she didn't ask for her it from the way she dressed. But what did she expect going into a place like that?

    /sarcasm for real this time
     
  5. Kilgore Trout

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    Well, at least I'm sure this woman would be gladdened to know that some American woman was able to exploit her ordeal by using it as fodder for her rhetoric.
     
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  6. EiNsTeiN

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    Egypt needs a huge social reform before fixing the political system.
     
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    It's good to see the so-called "Arab Spring" unfolding in such a wonderful manner.


    Allahu Akbar, baby.
     
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    You don't expect the accumulative corruption of decades to end after a single uprising.

    How is that good?
     
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    It wasn't very long ago that more than one Islamist broadcaster said that some of the women who were stripped and beaten while taking part in protests "asked for it" and didn't show any sympathy toward them. It seems to me that the problem is cultural and not mainly caused by any specific regime, although corruption in the government certainly doesn't help to reform the problems that are present in the country's culture.
     
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    Agreed.

    By corruption, I don't just mean political corruption. We've been suffering from social and cultural corruptions, mainly.
     
  11. Jayhawker Soule

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    Thank you for posting this. What happened to Lara Logan shouldn't be forgotten. Such incidents are evidence that reform is seriously needed in Egyptian society.
     
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    Definitely. I don't think changing governments will be of much benefit as long as no considerable efforts are made to reform the culture itself.
     
  14. EiNsTeiN

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    True, but in the same time, the successive corrupted governments never allowed for a social reform because, certainly, this would have affected their power.

    It's the chicken or the egg dilemma. You don't know whether to start by fixing the society or reforming the political system.
     
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    Nor should the fact that she was saved by enormously brave and fully observant Muslim women.
     
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    I agree. The stereotype some people repeat that all Middle Eastern women, especially religiously devout ones, are weak and subservient is part of the problem and actually contributes to fostering misogynistic stereotypes, in my opinion.
     
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