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Economic and humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by F1fan, Aug 15, 2022.

  1. F1fan

    F1fan Well-Known Member

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    I have seen or read numerous reports about how Afghanistan is facing serious economic collapse and especially a crisis in healthcare. The nation has been ruled by the Taliban for about a year now and the state of affairs has declined and on the verge of collapse. This report by SKY News shows how the biggest children hospital in Afghanistan is over crowded, with over 500 children in a facility built for 300.

    One year on from the Taliban takeover, crisis grips Afghanistan's biggest children's hospital

    The hospital can't treat most of the children and the staff can only do their best as they watch children die. Apparently there is no international support. I do not know if international aid is being refused by the Taliban or as part of international sanctions. I have to assume it is the Taliban as I can't believe there is no aid for these children.

    The Taliban seem more interested in maintaining their rule than helping the citizens of Afghanistan.
     
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  2. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I just watched similar on France24.

    It's what i expected.

    I read a while ago that the Taliban are refusing UN aid
     
  3. beenherebeforeagain

    beenherebeforeagain Rogue Animist
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    I suspect that most foreign aid is being diverted upon arrival and never reaches those intended to receive...
     
  4. paradox

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    Talibans believed they could run the state with guns and scriptures, seems like they're stuck now.
     
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    Shadow Wolf Student People Stabber

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    I have to agree. A lack of international aid, well, what do you expect when your policy is that about half the population is not really suited for work, this field is predominantly filled by women but women are required to be completely covered from head to toe, and it's in a country State where they are far more concerned with upholding a very extreme and rigidly conservative interpretation of Islam than upholding the dignity of their people.
     
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  6. sun rise

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    The Taliban needed to show that they would treat women well allowing them to finish school etc and do a few other things and they would have been helped and maybe money released. They chose religious fanaticism over food.
     
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  7. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Well the mantra is no more US involvement.

    They are on their own.
     
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    At least the seeds for female literacy, education and empowerment were sown and are sprouting. Those saplings need nurturing and lots and lots of support so they will grow to bear fruits that will positively change Afghanistan from within.
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    More than a mere mantra.
    The leadership we have in Ameristan
    should not be involved in fixing them.
     
  10. F1fan

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    The Biden administration is working on a plan to exempt sanctions for humanitarian support. Of course it's the Taliban.
     
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  11. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Biden made one good choice about war...not his
    vote to invade Iraq, but rather his decision to end
    our war in Afghanistan.
     
  12. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle 'Some of you humans are just so funny!'
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    You might think that other Muslims - from whatever country - would have some influence over the more extreme elements of the Taliban (being brothers) so as to get them to be more reasonable (as to how females are treated), given that Islam seemingly has its worst aspect shown up by the Taliban and what they do. Hardly the best recruitment campaign to be a Muslim. :oops:
     
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    The very offer of aid from countries involved on the war on terror is a clear imperialist tactic to weaken the Taliban in the region and try to reopen the door for Western influence.

    The Taliban are bad news, but they are clearly the genuine government of that nation as opposed to the puppet regime it replaced.
    Make no mistake that the reason the country is in such a bad state is because we spent almost 2 decades ruining it and then bailed when maintaining the occupation wasn't viable.
     
  14. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle 'Some of you humans are just so funny!'
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    A genuine government that was voted into power? And many - the females - might disagree with your assessment of the last few decades. Given that Afghanistan appears to be the only country in the world with such severe restrictions on females. Oh, it's just their way, and we shouldn't interfere? Well, perhaps some of us do abhor such tyranny - especially to half of society. :oops:

    History of the Taliban - Wikipedia

    If they don't change, another invasion will be likely eventually.
     
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    I have to admit that I made a mistake for supporting the decision to leave Afghanistan as things have so much deteriorated as it has slipped back into the stone age.
     
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    After 20 years of trying to fix the country,
    you think staying for more will yield a
    different result?
    At least we stopped wasting money on
    a failed mission. Liberals....always wanting
    to spend more & more money without ever
    questioning the benefit or the cost.
     
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    The present situation in Afghanistan is heartbreaking and I do empathize with them, but there are no surprises here, it was to be expected when the US withdrew, no matter the timetable. Trump made the deal with the Taliban. And I didn't see any willingness from Afghan soldiers to continue the fight. Recently women tried to protest the mandatory requirement of returning to the burka and were met with a spray of gunfire over their heads.
     
  18. Jayhawker Soule

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    That's a bit like saying that Socialism has its worst aspect shown up by the Stalinists or that Christianity has its worst aspect shown by White Christian Nationalism.
     
  19. Mock Turtle

    Mock Turtle 'Some of you humans are just so funny!'
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    Well I'm sure the Taliban would all profess to be good Muslims. Do other Muslims like to see their beliefs (and attitudes towards females) as apparently just as valid as their own? A bit like how the terrorists tend to taint Islam too, even though it is obviously very few who do this. One of the reasons why they might not speak out is that no doubt many Muslims would actually like a Muslim state, similar to Iran. The few Muslims who comment (and condemn), as per the recent Rushdie incident, exist in relatively free modern democracies, where they can make such comments.
     
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