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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by metis, May 24, 2022.

  1. Wildswanderer

    Wildswanderer Well-Known Member

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    I didn't find it stressful. And knowing your food before you eat it is just being more aware of reality.
     
  2. stvdv

    stvdv Veteran Member

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    I have no misunderstanding
    I call it "different understanding)

    Anyway
    I rather phrase it correctly
    NOT: Humans are (=) Animals

    See quote below to explain
    (No need to debate nor to belittle)

     
  3. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    Bear meat is extremely high in iron, so hemochromatosis sufferers would avoid it in favour of meat with a low iron content, like chicken or pork.
     
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    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    No. I am not imposing my own values of right or wrong. I am simply pointing out that in nature/evolution, there is no right or wrong.

    By using the word "cheating" you are imposing your own position. Some people see having sex with others as natural, normal, even necessary (for themselves).
    As I keep saying, morality is subjective and individual. I fully accept that you see extra-marital sex as "immoral". Many people do. It has been ingrained in society for centuries by organised religion. However, not everyone still maintains the full set of Abrahamic morals (although "Abrahamic morals" is a bit of an oxymoron).
     
  5. stvdv

    stvdv Veteran Member

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    IF these child shooters were taught at early life they were not just animals, but are Divine incarnations, chances are they would not do such horrendous crimes later

    Note: Divine incarnations, or Loving Beings, or Humanists (being humane) etc. Not just animals driven by instincts, but driven by Love and intellect
     
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    I am amazed you feel the need to call my opinion "nonsense". I never do that. Quite disrespectful, to phrase this as a claim. And proves your answer is not smart
     
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    I agree
     
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    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    Nope. You were categorically wrong to claim that if all humans are animals, then all animals are human. That is all.

    That article headline is technically wrong. It should say "What Makes Us Human And Separates Us from Other Animals?"
    Of course, most educated people understand what it means, but in the context of this discussion, it is wrong.

    Again, technically wrong. It should say "self-awareness is the most fundamental difference between us and other animals"

    With all due respect, there is a need to correct. If you find having your mistakes corrected "belittling", you will find it difficult to learn stuff.
    Also this is a debate forum, so yes, there absolutely is a need to debate!
     
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  9. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    Why do you find it "amazing"? You said something that was demonstrably nonsense. I pointed that out. "Respect" doesn't come into it (BTW, respect is earned, not demanded).
     
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    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    Are you high? American children are generally taught that they were created by god. It is entirely likely that this latest shooter was raised a churchgoing Christian. Many of the previous perps were.

    French children are not taught anything about god in school. How many mass shootings in schools have there been in France? None, that's how many. In fact, most of the deaths in mass shootings there have been caused by people who absolutely believed humans were created separately to other animals by a god.
     
  11. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, are they taught any form of morality and ethics?
     
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    Koldo Incredible Member

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    Saying that something is a moral issue =/= imposing your values of right and wrong

    But I don't see extra-marital sex as immoral per se.
    How am I imposing my position by using the word 'cheating'?
     
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  13. KenS

    KenS Face to face with my Father
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    Quite possible. When you are hungry, ever lizards have been eaten.
     
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    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    If you say something is immoral", you are necessarily imposing your values of right and wrong - especially if you go on to claim that everyone else holds the same position.

    You claimed that extra marital affairs are "immoral".

    "Cheating" is a pejorative. By using it you are expressing disapproval.
     
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    I strongly disagree.
    Getting enough iron is crucial to your overall health, since it's involved in oxygen transport, energy production and more. And if you're looking for dietary sources of iron, meat is a good start. Not only are many meats great sources of this mineral, but they tend to contain a form of iron easily absorbed by your body.
    Meat That Contains High Iron (sfgate.com)

    Hemochromatosis, or iron overload, is a condition in which your body stores too much iron. It’s often genetic. It can cause serious damage to your body, including to your heart, liver and pancreas. You can’t prevent the disease, but early diagnosis and treatment can avoid, slow or reverse organ damage.
    Hemochromatosis (Iron Overload): Causes, Symptoms, Treatment, Diet & More (clevelandclinic.org)
     
  16. Koldo

    Koldo Incredible Member

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    Nope, that's not how it works.
    To impose something upon someone is to force this other person to accept it. Am I pointing a gun to you? Am I blackmailing you? Am I threatening you? If not, how am I forcing anything upon you?

    You have made check back on what I have posted and... Nope. I didn't say that extra martial affairs are immoral. What I have said is that cheating is immoral.

    Does 'having a romantic or sexual affair without your spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend's consent' sound any better?
     
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    Paradoxically I'm craving some BBQ, I guess we're all different. :D
     
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    BBQ vegans? Never had it.
     
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    Sheldon Well-Known Member

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    Very true, and can read a dictionary or Google a word definition obviously.

    Animal
    noun
    1. a living organism that feeds on organic matter, typically having specialized sense organs and nervous system and able to respond rapidly to stimuli.
     
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    Nor me, I had lamb chops and burgers in mind tbh. Weather's crap here though, so BBQ is out, I will be having leftover Indian food from last night. tandoori chicken biryani, keema naan bread and some chips (that's fries for anyone not from the UK).
     
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