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East Asian country steps up brutal sharia laws

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Landon Caeli, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member
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    This isn't Shell's fault. Oil companies, if they are smart, don't meddle in internal politics.

    I think the Sultan of Brunei is going to catch hell from the rest of the Muslim world and back down.
     
  2. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    I think the Sultan of Brunei will not back down. I think Shell has partnered with religious zealots, and shell will end up suffering from the mistakes that Brunei makes.

    ...I don't feel sympathetic for shell -nobody should when considering that every gallon of shell gas sold is a profit for the Brunei government.
     
  3. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member
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    Most of the majors don't OWN any oilfields. They have to work with concession agreements.

    The Sultan of Brunei and his brother are debauched nutjobs..
     
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    It's opinionative, but yes, absolutely.
     
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    I did not doubt that is what you meant to show
    your lack of regard, which of course,you did.

    However, what you said, was this-

    Economic sanctions from Trump? He has no standing in the world.

    Whet her you, or someone else happens to respect
    Trump, his ability to impose sanctions and otherwise
    affect the world / its leaders just as real.

    As for the new laws in Brunei, they are based on
    Islam, and imposed by people with the power to
    make them stick.

    We've yet to see you show you detect even the tiniest
    shortcoming in the perfection of Islam.
     
  6. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    You can try watering it down all you want, but the fact remains that the Brunei government profits big off of every gallon of shell gas sold around the world.
     
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    oh oh....
    I hope they don't have 'sleeper' cells where I live

    maybe I should consider a change of avatar and call name
     
  8. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Well, just your name alone suggests you should have your hands and feet chopped off. Good luck!

    ...But hey, no worries, someone here "thinks" they'll probably change their minds some day. Probably they won't kill too, too many people. So it's no biggie. In the meantime, we can all just rationalize Islam based constitutions / laws as normal and legit.
     
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  9. Nakosis

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    Sure but when folks believe their authority comes from God, it's very hard to convince them otherwise. It's usually easier to get people to question human authority than divine authority.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Unfortunately, some people even have a hard time doing that... Questioning human authority that is.
     
  11. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    ...I don't know if It's the sign of a weak spirit, or of the hyper-civilized.

    I guess It's either/or depending on who.
     
  12. Shadow Wolf

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    Churches are tax exempt, the 10 Commandments are in display at court houses, In God We Trust is going to be on display in schools, and there is legislation on the books that is based on nothing more than Christian ideology, with a massive push for more.
     
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    We have those policies and votes despite American being constitutionally secular. The Constitution officially bans tests of religious faith to hold public office. Some places, however, do indeed have tests of religious faith to hold public office and ban atheists from holding office.
     
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    That's why narrative is more important. Officially, American and most of Europe are opposites in terms of state religion. In terms of policy, in many areas again they are opposites.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    I think you put "Churches are tax except" in there just to make your list look long, knowing all along that all religious organizations are. Ditto with the "massive push for more".

    ...Basically, America is secular and there is no favorance to Christianity, certainly not on the federal level. The schools and courthouses stuff is all States issues, that are really non-issues.
     
  16. Nakosis

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    Folks just don't like atheists.

    ...and that they wouldn’t like their child marrying one.

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    Atheists Still America’s Most Disliked Group, Now Along with Muslims - Sociological Images

    But in the Muslim communities, particularly in the sharia states of northern Nigeria, the situation is worse. Renouncing Islam and embracing atheism is like passing a death sentence on oneself. Renouncing Islam is apostasy, and apostasy is a crime punishable by death. Expressing atheistic views can easily be interpreted as a form of blasphemy. Blasphemy is a crime punishable by death. Expressing atheistic views can easily be taken to be an insult to Islam or to Allah or to his Prophet Muhammed. And all these are serious crimes in the eyes of Muslim fanatics in Nigeria. So there are two places for an atheist in sharia communities: in the closet or in the grave.
    "There are two places for an atheist in sharia communities: the closet or the grave"
     
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  17. Shadow Wolf

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    Nope. So much to the point I was surprised and delighted when Obama included non believers as a part of those who are citizens of America during his first inaugural speech.
     
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  18. Shadow Wolf

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    Teaching creationism as science is an issue. Discrimination as a right is an issue. Requiring someone have a religion to hold office is an issue and illegal and unconstitutional.
     
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    And courts still want us to swear an oath to God.
    But they've allowed me a secular oath to be truthful...on request.
    The default is that everyone is a Christian.
     
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    Yup. I can't wait till I go to court to see what kind of glares and stares I get when instead of god and the Bible I swear to Lucifer. Though since I'm not in Indiana anymore I suspect I might be dreadfully disappointed when nobody even seems to notice.
     
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