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East Asian country steps up brutal sharia laws

Discussion in 'General Debates' started by Landon Caeli, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. Landon Caeli

    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    That's terrible.

    23 Surprising Facts About Brunei - TripSavvy

    Some Interesting Brunei Facts. In 2015, Brunei ranked higher on the Human Development Index (31st overall in the index) than all other countries in Southeast Asia aside from Singapore. Brunei is considered to be the most observant Islamic nation in Southeast Asia. Beautiful mosques dot the country.
     
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    The most observant one.
     
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    Actually there is no death penalty for homosexuality.
     
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    SCMP says death penalty to be imposed for adultery and gay sex in
    Brunei.
     
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    Why do you say that? Is this you doing the split of homosexuality and sodomy thing?
    Let's face it, the law is aimed at homosexual men.

    How many straight, married men will be stoned for having anal sex with their wives, do you estimate??
     
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    Homosexual acts are strictly forbidden in Islam. Although it has mainly been focused around men, women homosexuals are not that strongly discussed. This could be that in adultery, the focus is mainly on penetration.

    In the holy Quran, the people of Prophet Lut have been discussed often. These were the people who heavily dowelled in homosexuality (male). Quran discusses them in a number of verses.

    And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, "Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds?(80)Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people."(81) Al-Araf 80-81

    Ash-Shura 25:165-166

    Do you approach males among the worlds(165).And leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a people transgressing."(166)

    Al-Naml 27:55

    Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly."

    Quran 4:16

    And the two who commit it among you, dishonor them both. But if they repent and correct themselves, leave them alone. Indeed, Allah is ever Accepting of repentance and Merciful.
     
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    The Quran makes it clear that homosexuality is a sin, but there's no mandate for Muslims to intervene, so it is not a crime. It's only the hadith that assert that being gay is criminal. The Quran does not. I can't find a single case where the Quran gives Muslims any mandate to aggress. They are commanded to defend the innocent from aggression and oppression. There's no mandate to initiate conflict with people for their sins
     
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    The mandate is there for those who read it.
    And so Islam is split on the topic.
     
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    But then, interpretation..

    Anyone can interpret the Quran how they see fit according to their needs.
     
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    Really? I didn't know you were Muslim.
     
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    There also have to be witnesses to the act..
     
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    Why would you assume I'm Muslim or even need to be Muslim to read and interpret the Quran?
     
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    LOLOl.. never mind.
     
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    Having witnesses to an act which harms no one, but
    results in harsh & even deadly punishment is a terrible thing.
     
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    And the penalties for perjury are VERY harsh.
     
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