FearGod
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I wonder why the governments don't appoint at least one armed security quard for each worshiping place to prevent such awful crimes.
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Don't be a Muslim, otherwise you'll die
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I wonder why the governments don't appoint at least one armed security quard for each worshiping place to prevent such awful crimes.
Ideally a war would mean soldiers fighting soldiers. Apparently you haven't heard of collateral damage. I agree that it's animalistic behaviour, but it exists in all religions, without exception. Both victims and perpetrators can be of any faith.
Its probably the cost, but I think the New Zealand mosques could request help. Maybe the government didn't think of it.
Isn't a willingness to die for your beliefs part of the faith?
There are always going to be people like this. Willing to kill others because of their beliefs. That's just the reality of the world. Our history is fraught with people willing to die for their beliefs. If there weren't we would have any of these beliefs.
WRONG. The terrorists in this and many other cases are "white nationalists". They are aided and abetted by right wing types in various nations including in the USA. They are the biggest danger to civilization and humanity today and they must be dealt with seriously.
Being willing to murder others because of your beliefs is what Hitler did in spades and what white nationalist terrorists are doing today.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Sorry, I think my message did not get the right POW. What i did mean to say is that muslim extremists are often shown as the only terrorists, because of how media show them, but as you say there are many white people who are responsable for terror too. i should know because Norway have one ourself, and that still hurt the Norwegian people, so i do understand the people in N have a very difficult time now
Hitler didn't stop the Jews, I suspect this isn't going to stop the Muslims either.
That's what's hard to understand. The perpetrators may think what they're doing is good, but ultimately it just gets the other side angrier. How many young New Zealand Muslims will be looking seriously at ISIS recruitment because of this?
Unfortunately you can't fix the world. Wish I could. Some magic pill to "enlighten" everybody. That's just not the way the world works.
Shouldn't our beliefs, our religion at least lead us to be enlightened? If not, isn't there something wrong?
I concur. Beliefs should lead to peace, not violence. But it's good to not be naive either. People who think they're somehow immune to it are naive. I could go for a walk in my neighbourhood right now, and get mugged.
Possibly because many nations have a hands-off policy between government and religion. In the US, and I'm sure Canada, Australia, New Zealand, European countries, the governments cannot just station guards in houses of worship. But they can ask. I'm not sure why, but a few weeks ago there was a guard in the vestibule of my temple, by the front desk. For some reason the temple management must have asked.
I was just thinking of this sort of thing last week. I was sitting in the food court at the mall, which was busy, eating my pizza and minding my own business. I was looking around at everyone (ok, that wasn't minding my own business
) and thought "How horrible that some whackjob nutcase could come in here and start shooting up the place. Without provocation. How many innocent people wounded, killed, traumatized?" So many irreplaceable lives snuffed out. Senselessly and randomly.
I was just thinking of this sort of thing last week. I was sitting in the food court at the mall, which was busy, eating my pizza and minding my own business. I was looking around at everyone (ok, that wasn't minding my own business
Personally, I think lone wolf attacks are a form of mental illness. We had a random attack on a Greyhound bus a few years back. Guy was treated. But the more group ones like this one and several others are showing a much darker side to the human 'follow blindly' condition.
Yes, I think you're right about the single gunman. Either scenario is scary and all too possible.
Really, that is a terrible video. How on earth does anyone think that preaching terror of a vengeful God for not believing as a Muslim (or a Christian, or anything else, for that matter) is any way to bring people together?
Of all that I dislike about religion, it is those awful preachments of hellfire and damnation that make a complete and utter mockery of any deity.
Did he not attack non-Muslims? In fact, I think the video makes very explicit threats of hellfire and damnation for everyone non-Muslims on earth.
Oh, I get it, he wasn't attacking non-Muslims, his God was....
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
In my experience, the Muslims I've met (including those from the Middle East) tended to be way more "live and let live" than the average Conservative Christian (and way more polite and considerate). Overall, much like anyone else just trying to live their own life without interest in making demands of other people to change their own ways. They also tended to lack this "would be hero" complex where they feel they have to take it upon themselves to save everyone from the boogeyman and their shadows (unlike many Christians who want to take it upon themselves to be everyone's Jiminey Cricket).
Sounds accurate, @Shadow Wolf
