"Donald Trump says something that isn't true 5.5 times a day. Every day."

[leibowde84]

That a lie. You watch CNN! They lie just about as much! Haha

Can you provide some examples? I hear this claim a lot, but when asked for specific examples of false claims that were never retracted or corrected, usually I get nothing.

 

[leibowde84]

Its not like politicians in general (regardles of their leanings) are known to be honest upstanding individuals of our communities. Most are lying conniving scheming dirt bags. So Trump fits in well!

He has certainly taken it to a new level though.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

LoL nope, actions speak louder than words. I look at a candidates actions and determine what I think they believe based on their past actions. Its not fool proof by any means, but it's better than believing the lies. At least imho.

Well, among his other "actions," there are 6 bankruptcies, which in essence saved his bacon while throwing thousands of innocent stakeholders and employees under the bus.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That's not my opinion. That is the opinion of the majority of the U.S. I did not chose the lesser of the 2 evils (Trump or Hillary) that most of the U.S. voted for, because they felt like they had no other choice. I voted for someone who I did not consider a lesser of the 2 evils.

And by the way, your statement that it "is the opinion of the majority of the U.S." is somewhat inaccurate. Clinton got nearly 3,000,000 more votes than Trump did, and even she did not get a "majority" of the votes. She won 48.5% while he won 46.4%

 

[Enoch07]

What "past actions" of Trump's persuaded you to vote for him?

Well, among his other "actions," there are 6 bankruptcies, which in essence saved his bacon while throwing thousands of innocent stakeholders and employees under the bus.

And by the way, your statement that it "is the opinion of the majority of the U.S." is somewhat inaccurate. Clinton got nearly 3,000,000 more votes than Trump did, and even she did not get a "majority" of the votes. She won 48.5% while he won 46.4%

More people who misunderstand! Honestly I think it's just people's blinding hate of Trump that they will attack anyone who slightly disagrees with them at all! Tribalism at it's finest!

I did not vote for Trump.

I did not vote for Hillary.

The majority of the U.S. did vote for either Hillary or Trump. Yes, Hillary had more votes than Trump, but no other candidates came close to those 2. So yes together, they had the majority of the votes.

Just do happens they are both crap candidates. That is the voters fault for continuing to settle and vote for candidates that are not up to par!

 

[Enoch07]

Can you provide some examples? I hear this claim a lot, but when asked for specific examples of false claims that were never retracted or corrected, usually I get nothing.

This is all one story mind you. I'll give you CNNs story:

How CNN found the Reddit user behind the Trump wrestling GIF - CNNPolitics

A non CNN pov:

http://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-criticized-threatening-dox-reddit-users-identity-2017-7

And then the truth.

http://lidblog.com/cnn-blackmails-hanassholesolo/

Come to find out the guy CNN confronted, threatened to dox and publicly humiliate. Was actually the wrong guy.


What an upstanding organization. Totally trustworthy!

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

More people who misunderstand! Honestly I think it's just people's blinding hate of Trump that they will attack anyone who slightly disagrees with them at all! Tribalism at it's finest!

I did not vote for Trump.

I did not vote for Hillary.

The majority of the U.S. did vote for either Hillary or Trump. Yes, Hillary had more votes than Trump, but no other candidates came close to those 2. So yes together, they had the majority of the votes.

Just do happens they are both crap candidates. That is the voters fault for continuing to settle and vote for candidates that are not up to par!

I don't think I'm blind to anything. I apologise for misunderstanding you, thank you for the clarification.

 

[leibowde84]

This is all one story mind you. I'll give you CNNs story:

How CNN found the Reddit user behind the Trump wrestling GIF - CNNPolitics

A non CNN pov:

http://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-criticized-threatening-dox-reddit-users-identity-2017-7

And then the truth.

http://lidblog.com/cnn-blackmails-hanassholesolo/

Come to find out the guy CNN confronted, threatened to dox and publicly humiliate. Was actually the wrong guy.


What an upstanding organization. Totally trustworthy!

What outside evidence are you basing your assumption that the lidblog article is correct?

 

[Enoch07]

What outside evidence are you basing your assumption that the lidblog article is correct?

Anecdotal evidence, that is backed up by the Lidblog article.

 

[leibowde84]

Anecdotal evidence, that is backed up by the Lidblog article.

Sorry to keep harping on this, but what do you mean specifically?

 

[Enoch07]

Sorry to keep harping on this, but what do you mean specifically?

Doesn't matter anecdotal evidence is usually not acceptable for a debate. Which is why I cited an article that states the same.

 

[leibowde84]

Doesn't matter anecdotal evidence is usually not acceptable for a debate. Which is why I cited an article that states the same.

Wait, so you have no evidence that supports your claim that the lidblog article is accurate? It's not a court of law. I'm just curious why you made the claim.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Donald Trump says something that isn't true 5.5 times a day. Every day. - CNNPolitics

I don't think I have ever known anyone that lies that much.

Somebody was counting? The .5, was that like a half-lie?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Somebody was counting? The point five, was that like a half-lie?

Try reading the article and the thread, both of those questions have been addressed.

 

[idav]

More people who misunderstand! Honestly I think it's just people's blinding hate of Trump that they will attack anyone who slightly disagrees with them at all! Tribalism at it's finest!

I did not vote for Trump.

I did not vote for Hillary.

The majority of the U.S. did vote for either Hillary or Trump. Yes, Hillary had more votes than Trump, but no other candidates came close to those 2. So yes together, they had the majority of the votes.

Just do happens they are both crap candidates. That is the voters fault for continuing to settle and vote for candidates that are not up to par!

You really think it's blind hate of Trump? Hilarious lol. Trump has given the world plenty to dispise and it hasn't gotten any better in the first year of office. Yeah there is certainly some blindness going on and it ain't coming from libs or the rest of the world.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

More people who misunderstand! Honestly I think it's just people's blinding hate of Trump that they will attack anyone who slightly disagrees with them at all! Tribalism at it's finest!

Clarification please: how is my quoting the stats of the election "misunderstanding," and even more important, how is it "tribalism" (since I am a Canadian who didn't and couldn't vote for any of them)?

 

[Enoch07]

Liberalism is your tribe.

You really think it's blind hate of Trump?

Yes, considering the democrats didn't hate Trump (when he was a dem) in the 80's when he was on Oprahs show and she was basically begging him to run for PoTUS.

 

[idav]

Liberalism is your tribe.

I am an independent that votes how I want, republican or democrat depending on the candidates.

 

[Enoch07]

I am an independent that votes how I want, republican or democrat depending on the candidates.

Liberalism is your tribe was directed @Evangelicalhumanist. His post #57 was wonky so the quote system didn't work properly.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Liberalism is your tribe.



Yes, considering the democrats didn't hate Trump (when he was a dem) in the 80's when he was on Oprahs show and she was basically begging him to run for PoTUS.

Let's not make the mistake of treating ALL of ANY group as a single, homogeneous hive mind. Let's also not make the mistake of demanding situations today cannot differ from situations in the past.

Saddam Hussein and Osamabin Laden were allies of the US in the '80s, just for example.